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Auto Makers Supercharge Move into Electric Vehicles
WSJ ^ | 5 Jan 2022 | Mike Colias

Posted on 01/05/2022 5:39:34 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

The Chrysler brand is ditching gas engines and going to an all-electric lineup. And Japan’s Sony Group Corp. plans to jump into the electric-vehicle fray, creating its own car unit.

Stellantis said in July that it plans to spend more than $35.5 billion through 2025 to release an array of new plug-in models. Ford has said it would spend $30 billion on electric vehicles through 2025. GM has said it plans to spend $35 billion by the middle of the decade to introduce 30 plug-in models globally and has set a 2035 target date for phasing out gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles from its showrooms.

The F-150 Lightning is priced between $40,000 for a base model and the high $90,000s for the high-end models.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
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To: Rembrandt

Yes. 110v will charge it enough overnight for local runabout use, further on occasion. Served me fine when I had an EV for two years.

If you’re spending that much on an EV, get a separate line installed for a 240v charger. That will fully charge it every night.


61 posted on 01/05/2022 8:51:57 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: setter

“Tesla’s tech page says their ev heater will work for 72 hours on a full charge of the car is not moving”

I have to admit that that sounds great if it’s a new vehicle, but people should take into account the loss of power storage as the battery get’s older.

I suppose we’ll have to see what the rate of shrinkage in battery storage capacity becomes. Then and only then will the value of an electric vehicle really show up.

I believe that electric vehicles for use in the northern tier of the United States is a really bad idea due to the extremes of our winter weather. Only time will tell if I’m right.


62 posted on 01/05/2022 8:54:26 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Am eagerly awaiting an electric truck. Put down placeholder deposit within hours of Cybertruck announcement. The torque, towing, & acceleration specs are amazing.


63 posted on 01/05/2022 8:54:39 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

It’s starting to look like your only choice will be vintage used diesel or gas trucks. After this phase-out begins, gas and diesel fueling stations will begin rapidly disappearing. You’ll eventually have to go to your local marina or airport to get gasoline. They are really hell-bent on making this dystopia happen.

And NOT ONE of them addresses the fundamental problem: “Where will the electricity come from?”


64 posted on 01/05/2022 8:55:28 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: ocrp1982

“The auto companies are controlled by WOKE management”

I think it’s more that the government has put nose-rings on all of them and leads them wherever the government want them to go.

The absolute worst part of this is government is infested top-to-bottom with blithering idiots that are foisting this on us. It’s like the stupid program to turn corn into ethanol to keep the farmers happy. Nothing the government does passes any sort of engineering test.


65 posted on 01/05/2022 8:57:39 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Good luck finding a charging station.


66 posted on 01/05/2022 9:14:11 PM PST by McGruff
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Corporations control the politicians and laws, not the other way around.

I live on top of marcelles Utica gas formation- the largest gas formation- in the country.

Hundreds of billions of infrastructure is currently being built- gas lines, pumps etc.

In 2021 under Biden, 356 new well permits were approved in my county and two counties below me. In 4 years of Trump only 72 permits were issued in the 3 counties.

In my area a record amount of gas was pumped out in 2021 under Biden

No, I am not giving Biden credit but just saying the large corporations control this economy. The Democrat politicians tell their far left base they are going to shut down fossil fuels but wink wink to the gas companies

2 natural gas power plants are being but near me. Costings billions of dollars. These companies would not be building them if the govt was going to shut them down

Fossil fuels especially natural gas will be around for a long long time because it is cheap energy


67 posted on 01/05/2022 9:25:07 PM PST by setter
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“ The absolute worst part of this is government is infested top-to-bottom with blithering idiots that are foisting this on us. It’s like the stupid program to turn corn into ethanol to keep the farmers happy. Nothing the government does passes any sort of engineering test.”
————
“Everything that the government touches turns to shit.” - the great philosopher, Ringo Starr


68 posted on 01/05/2022 10:00:46 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: John S Mosby

Reminds me of the movie “Last Chase”.


69 posted on 01/05/2022 10:36:43 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: mulligan

Meanwhile, GM is recalling Chevy Bolt EVs (2017-2022) and Bolt EUVs (2022) to address the risk of battery fires in these vehicles.

Chevrolet still recommends Bolt owners not to park their cars inside their house garage; a fire could incinerate the garage AND the house in a worse case scenario.

Some Bolt owners have said their vehicles were banned from parking in public garages or parking structures.


70 posted on 01/05/2022 10:38:05 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ivermectin should be available for sale over the counter in the United States of America)
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To: ocrp1982

What a b*tch!


71 posted on 01/05/2022 10:40:30 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ivermectin should be available for sale over the counter in the United States of America)
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To: Rembrandt

Yes,but very slowly.


72 posted on 01/05/2022 10:41:43 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

A man in Finland posted a video on YouTube showing his Tesla engulfed in flames.

He deliberately set his Tesla on fire, because he didn’t want to pay $25,000 to replace his battery.


73 posted on 01/05/2022 10:56:28 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ivermectin should be available for sale over the counter in the United States of America)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

$40,000 for a base model..... most people cannot afford that!!

That is today’s price, what will the price be several years from now. It will be even higher!!


74 posted on 01/06/2022 6:10:13 AM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: MinorityRepublican

#22 You posted the image in ‘metric’ size.... : )


75 posted on 01/06/2022 6:17:14 AM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: setter

nit picking I know but,” Depending on battery type, charger configuration and circuit capacity, DC fast charging can add up to 10 miles of range per minute of charging time.” so 150 miles is more like it . Quote from many on line sources.


76 posted on 01/06/2022 6:40:26 AM PST by JeanLM
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To: CapnJack

—””Is there a plant to build massive amounts of Nuclear Power Plants in the next 10 years?”

Was there a massive build-out to supply the millions of new home air-condition units in the 1960s?
When I was a kid only the movie theaters had AC, by high school everybody had them.

California runs about 15% short of needs, did you ever wonder how that works? NYC also...

Nation-wide peak day time load is twice the night time peak...With a bit of ciphering ...and add in a diversity factor...


77 posted on 01/06/2022 7:54:37 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This move will make the used car market for old ICE cars skyrocket. Those with the fewest computer parts will have the highest value, as they will be the easiest to maintain.


78 posted on 01/06/2022 7:57:23 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

—”This move will make the used car market for old ICE cars skyrocket. “

And wait until you see the price of fuel!!!

But WAIT!
There is more:

Regular gasoline has a shelf life of three to six months, while diesel can last up to a year before it begins to degrade. On the other hand, organic-based Ethanol can lose its combustibility in just one to three months due to oxidation and evaporation.

That means you must buy the high price gasoline...
But it will all be priced very high!


79 posted on 01/06/2022 8:15:10 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
And wait until you see the price of fuel!!!

You mean the taxes on fuel.

80 posted on 01/06/2022 8:15:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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