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Auto Makers Supercharge Move into Electric Vehicles
WSJ ^ | 5 Jan 2022 | Mike Colias

Posted on 01/05/2022 5:39:34 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

The Chrysler brand is ditching gas engines and going to an all-electric lineup. And Japan’s Sony Group Corp. plans to jump into the electric-vehicle fray, creating its own car unit.

Stellantis said in July that it plans to spend more than $35.5 billion through 2025 to release an array of new plug-in models. Ford has said it would spend $30 billion on electric vehicles through 2025. GM has said it plans to spend $35 billion by the middle of the decade to introduce 30 plug-in models globally and has set a 2035 target date for phasing out gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles from its showrooms.

The F-150 Lightning is priced between $40,000 for a base model and the high $90,000s for the high-end models.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: evs
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Ain’t gonna happen.

And that is coming from a guy that has an EV.

Imagine being stuck on an icy road in VA with nothing but EV’s. They’d still be there.


41 posted on 01/05/2022 7:11:51 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: nascarnation
My data from Pick A Part says after crash damage, busted transmissions are the second leading cause of vehicle death.

For serious old car folks, body rot does it up north. You can replace a transmission, but when the part that holds the torsion bars rusts through and your whole front end collapses, you are done. Been there.
42 posted on 01/05/2022 7:15:08 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The stick marked “millimetres” in the cartoon has the tick marks every quarter between numbers, which is VERY unmetric.


43 posted on 01/05/2022 7:17:25 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: setter

True. However, there is a big complicated battery and LOTS of computer chips so maybe, just maybe, something will go wrong there. Not to mention running out of power at some unfortunate time.


44 posted on 01/05/2022 7:17:36 PM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps on comin'.)
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To: nagant
Chrysler is moving into EV’s because Chrysler’s target consumers have always included gullible young buyers. If Chrysler abandons EV’s then Chrysler may as well get out of the business.

Notice it said Chrysler "BRAND". The Chrysler brand has all of TWO models, the Chrysler Pacifica Minivan and the Chrysler 300 sedan, which is being phased out. The Chrysler website doesn't even show a 2022 model.
45 posted on 01/05/2022 7:22:38 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: nascarnation

Just bought a 2021 Toyota Tundra. New. Big V8. Figure it will last me into my 80s.


46 posted on 01/05/2022 7:25:14 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: setter
As Rush always said follow the money. This has nothing to do with saving the environment but maximizing profit and eliminating labor cost.

It is hard to tell how much is actual market profit, and how much is government telling the large players to get on board, without quibbling, or be regulated out of existence.
47 posted on 01/05/2022 7:25:28 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

My house is powered by 110 volt power. Can I re-charge one of these vehicles with my 110 power?


48 posted on 01/05/2022 7:25:43 PM PST by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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To: setter

“sent in 200,000 pre orders for the Ford F-150 Lightening pick up”

What they are NOT are people who use their trucks as trucks!


49 posted on 01/05/2022 7:27:39 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Rembrandt

No, but you can recharge an electric scootmobile of some kind, drive it to your car parked out on the street out of view of your Karen neighbors, and get the best of both worlds.


50 posted on 01/05/2022 7:28:08 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Obviously there was no Market Research done prior to these announcements.

I can’t think of anyone I know who wants to purchase such a vehicle.

And where is the infrastructure to support such a pipe dream?
Is there a plant to build massive amounts of Nuclear Power Plants in the next 10 years?


51 posted on 01/05/2022 7:30:37 PM PST by CapnJack ( )
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To: setter

“Ev charging station are being put in everywhere. Our local Sheetz, Pilot and Bell Stores all put them in this last years”.
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Takes hours to charge so you will need overnight stations which will be a security and capacity issue. Charging overnight at home in a garage works but not for those in urban areas with no garages. Te last 10% of charge takes the longest time. And then there all the lomg haul trucks that need to be replaced. I think EV’s will be here but the market will be limited too less than 50% of personal vehicles. That’s still big.

The states and feds. will also see their fuel tax revvenues cut and try to find a way to tax EV recharging. That will make them more expenxsive than gas or diesel.
The $25,000 cost od a new battery will match maintenance dosts of gas cars too.

But if i were going to live another 30 years I’d buy me a used Tesla Plaid to go with my Jeep SRT that’ll last forever.


52 posted on 01/05/2022 7:31:46 PM PST by JeanLM
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To: Dr. Sivana

Remember when Toyota bought back all the pickups because the frames prematurely rotted out?

One of my clients won the contract to pick them up at designated holding areas and transport them to the salvage yards where they were crushed. He had about 7-8 auto transport trucks and ended up buying many more and hired lots of drivers.
It took about 3 years all together

He made millions and retired at age 49.

It started when they called him to transport some trucks and they liked working with him.


53 posted on 01/05/2022 7:32:38 PM PST by setter
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To: Rembrandt

Yes you can but it is recommended to plug into your 230 volt stove or dryer wire for faster charging


54 posted on 01/05/2022 7:35:20 PM PST by setter
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To: JeanLM

Fast chargers charge in 15 minutes and gives you a 200 mile range for that 15 minutes

The group that owns Red Lobster and Applebees and others are planning on putting chargers in their restaurants to attract EV business and charge the card while the people are eat there. The free market and capitslism will make it work


55 posted on 01/05/2022 7:43:03 PM PST by setter
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To: CapnJack

See my post #36. There are also 177 natural gas power plants currently being built around the country. 2 are under construction near me


56 posted on 01/05/2022 7:45:42 PM PST by setter
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Does anybody know how ell those electric vehicles did in Virginia during their last snow storm?I’m sure they didn’t do well much earlier than the vehicle powered with Gasoline or diesel fuel.

The auto industry is making a very big mistake.


57 posted on 01/05/2022 7:50:24 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Rembrandt

—” Can I re-charge one of these vehicles with my 110 power?”

Level 1 Charging: 120-Volt
Connectors Used: J1772, Tesla
Charging Speed: 3 to 5 Miles Per Hour
Locations: Home, Workplace & Public

Level 1 charging uses a common 120-volt household outlet. Every electric vehicle or plug-in hybrid can be charged on Level 1 by plugging the charging equipment into a regular wall outlet. Level 1 is the slowest way to charge an EV. It adds between 3 and 5 miles of range per hour.

https://www.forbes.com/wheels/advice/ev-charging-levels/


58 posted on 01/05/2022 8:24:04 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: puppypusher

Tesla’s tech page says their ev heater will work for 72 hours on a full charge of the car is not moving

EVs use a heat pump for their heat and ac and they use very little power.


59 posted on 01/05/2022 8:27:16 PM PST by setter
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That’s assuming Build Back Better passes, with its huge payouts for union driven EV manufacturers.

BBB being dead may change their interest. Dealers dictate, and don’t want to close their profitable service centers (EVs having far lower repairs, due to far fewer moving parts).


60 posted on 01/05/2022 8:46:49 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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