Posted on 01/04/2022 7:27:29 PM PST by blueplum
New findings suggest that the body may mistakenly attack itself months after contracting even mild coronavirus infection, adding to the research surrounding long-haul COVID-19.
The autoimmune phenomena was identified in a study involving health care workers who had contracted the coronavirus early on in the pandemic, before vaccines became widely available. The study, published in the the Journal of Translational Medicine, found that among 177 health care workers who had recovered from COVID-19, all had persistent autoantibodies months after infection, including some which can cause injury to organs and tissues....
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“I fact, no one I actually know yet has had it SINCE vaxes”
WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU POST THAT? Millions of cases reported in people who have been jabbed (some multiple times). Don’t be stupid.
Already happening. Some here claim Covid either does not exist or it can’t make you sick or if it does exist and can make you very ill, this can prevented or cured with ivermectin and/or HCQ, and only those two drugs. All bad things are caused by vaccines only, never the virus.
Well, I had Covid early days, nasty case but no hospital. I have not quite been the same since. Not vaxxed. But that’s just me and anecdotal and neither here nor there. But I do appreciate Blue plum posting this and find it of interest.
They had the vax before the plandemic launched. I believe they were administering the contents of the vax in late 2019 and through 2020 (in other unrelated vaccines and injections) and then blaming the clots, autoimmune issues on Covid. That’s why they keep pushing the lie that the ‘vaccine’ and the illness have the same symptoms. If they hadn’t started administering the ‘vax’ in 2019, it would be too conspicous when the heart attacks, strokes, blood clots all started with the PUBLIC administration of the vax a year later.
Exactly. They are always creating stories that cover that up and blame it on something else.
Most countries were starting to feel the weight of an aging population. It makes you wonder if global elites thought this would be a convenient way to solve their “aged useless eaters” problem.
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Long Hauler Syndrome. It was a known issue before the vaccines existed. Oddly enough it seems to be associated with mild cases more than serious ones.
All of the problems that the fear porn crowd routinely blame on vaccines were already known to come from the virus infection itself. Small surprise since the vaccine spikes are created from virus mRNA.
There are loads of studies over at PubMed that predate the vaccine releases. But if you want to hide something from the kooks all you need to do is publish it openly in an actual NIH paper. Put it on a conspiracy website and they’ll find it immediately.
“the phase III trial was completed”
If by “completed”, you mean “aborted years short of the standard duration for phase III testing of all other experimental medications”, then sure.
The stupid erupted quickly on this thread. Quickdraw McGaw rides again.
It took 2 and a half minutes, right on the nose. Imagine going through life like that. Maybe they are having a contest that we don’t know about. Merit badges and stuff.
Well, there is evidence that the virus itself can cause autoimmune effects. Remember all the pre-vaccine talk about the “cytokine storm” causing lung damage... that cytokine phenomenon is an autoimmune phenomenon.
However, it seems to me that the culprit is probably the spike protein in both the virus and vaccine that is triggering the response. In the virus though, I would suspect that protein to be prevalent where the virus is infecting cells, so mostly in the lungs, mouth, nose, throat and sinuses. With the vaccine, the spike protein is traveling through the bloodstream and then on to every organ in the body. So I would expect autoimmune effects from the vaccine will probably be distinguishable because they can cause more extensive damage beyond what you’d see from “long COVID” lung damage.
“They’re experimental “Vaccine” gene therapies”
How does mRNA code therapize genes? That must be interesting.
“Maybe this is what spike proteins do. They are toxic.”
The wild virus spikes fold on themselves and transform shape after attaching to a cell. This tears tissue and can cause bleeding. The vaccine spikes don’t do this transformation.
https://answers.childrenshospital.org/sars-cov-2-variants-spike/
” because the research studies that i’ve reading regarding post-vaccination death involve autopsies that show pervasive organ destruction from massive autoimmune attacks from those who died shortly after being vaxxed with no actual covid infection”
So post a link to these studies.
It sounds like you’re talking about the ADE reaction that occurred when whole virus vaccines were tried for SARS-1 and MERS. It showed up immediately as soon as the test animals were challenged with the wild virus. It kills immediately through cytokine storm. Where do you see that happening now?
“Please do note (and this goes for all the posters prior) that the study was from BEFORE vaxes. It IS just about the actual disease.”
You’re totally spoiling the fear porn story. Facts are unnecessary and definitely unwanted on these threads. Gotta roll with the fear, baby.
“They had the vax before the plandemic launched. I believe they were administering the contents of the vax in late 2019 and through 2020 “
There’s always a new excuse to cover up for the old failed ones. I savor the crazy ones, they are the best.
I did enjoy your “there is no covid virus” version. You may still believe that one, when I’ve asked you to confirm or deny you never answer. Cat got your tongue?
“However, it seems to me that the culprit is probably the spike protein in both the virus and vaccine that is triggering the response”
Maybe, although the wild virus spike and the vaccine spikes behave differently. The wild spikes transform shape as soom as they attach to a cell. They fold on themselves and that can tear tissue causing bleeding and microclots. The vaccine spikes just sit there immobile after they attach.
You just aren’t worth my time. I choose what to write, sometimes it’s whatever may be of use to me in a future stand alone thread I post.
“Most countries were starting to feel the weight of an aging population. It makes you wonder if global elites thought this would be a convenient way to solve their “aged useless eaters” problem.”
Yes, this could fix retirement liabilities. It could fix man made global warming also!
I do seem to remember when the Covid first came out people nicknamed it the “Boomer Remover”
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