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From a comment at the site:

What we are witnessing here is the very first time in the history of representative government (outside of a state of war) that the entire policy set of the incumbents is intended to immediately worsen the quality of life of the electorate.

It is quite a bizarre experiment, insane actually. Full TXT: https://archive.vn/AHI2d

1 posted on 12/28/2021 8:15:41 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Extend the 55 mpg standard to private jets and we’ll talk.


2 posted on 12/28/2021 8:19:09 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The EPA has overstepped its mandate and it’s time for Congress to stop this insanity. They are passing laws, not regulations. Do we really need 13,758 employees at the EPA? Hint: No!


3 posted on 12/28/2021 8:21:05 PM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy. I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

My cars get

Saab 18 city 28 hwy
Bmw 15 city 18 hwy
Bmw 19 city 29 hwy

I have a friend with rav4 hybrid she gets 39 city and hwy

She has car payments, I dont


4 posted on 12/28/2021 8:39:34 PM PST by algore
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To: DUMBGRUNT
The real purpose of higher fuel-efficiency standards is to impose an electric-vehicle mandate by regulatory fiat, because there is little chance that Congress will enact legislation banning the sale of internal-combustion vehicles.

Definitely unconstitutional.

But who will challenge this? The automakers won't.

5 posted on 12/28/2021 8:41:35 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: DUMBGRUNT

yeah i will be buying older and used cars in the future

maybe consider getting a spare now and rotating it as a driver


7 posted on 12/28/2021 8:44:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“ For those who drive hundreds of miles every day, as some rural consumers do, having to spend hours recharging an EV isn’t practical.”

ABSOLUTELY.

And that’s coming from a guy that owns an EV.

Not my only vehicle, tho’. The others are older and paid for and the EV will help them live longer by not doing the short daily commutes I do.


8 posted on 12/28/2021 8:57:08 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The electric grid won’t support this. Every 1% of ICE vehicles replaced by BEVs would need another two nuclear power plants to fuel them, plus an equivalent supporting increase in grid capacity. Every nuclear plant will take decades to find the funding, scout for the land, jump through the regulatory hoops, build the plant and bring it online.

We’ll be having rolling blackouts from sea to shining sea before they can trade 5% (15 million) of ICE vehicles for battery-only EVs.


9 posted on 12/28/2021 8:59:54 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Buy several gas cars now, you’ll be able to resell them for a small fortune in 5 years.


11 posted on 12/28/2021 9:22:59 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The permanent deep-state rules America.

Oh, you may “elect” some conservatives representatives, or even an occasional President, but the deep state is forever. It will eventually eliminate them, and carry-on as before.


12 posted on 12/28/2021 9:45:15 PM PST by PGR88
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It’s more than stealth EV mandate.
Consider a future where:
- Your house is all electric
- Your car is electric
- Natural gas is illegal
- Generators are illegal
- Burning coal and wood is illegal
... and the government controls the power grid.

Now do you understand?


13 posted on 12/28/2021 9:54:29 PM PST by reintarnation
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To: DUMBGRUNT; All

Trump cancelled this requirement. Apparently Biden turned that around too, just as he did to every other thing Trumpmdid.


17 posted on 12/29/2021 1:36:04 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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I’ll be getting an old truck, 64-66 Chevy and setting it on a 97-99 Chevy truck frame/drivetrain. 5.3 or 6.0 liter that gets 20mpg, hauls ass, pulls a load and being 64-66, is exempt from emission/mileage rules.


19 posted on 12/29/2021 6:09:06 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

How about not being able to buy a gas powered car right now (or at least the ones people actually want to buy)?


20 posted on 12/29/2021 6:21:11 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: DUMBGRUNT

All-Electric vehicles are a stupid idea from the word ‘go’. The electrical distribution plant isn’t designed to handle the massive increase in power consumption that such a scheme requires.

Diesel electrics actually make a fair amount of sense, and it is long-time proven technology that has, for decades moved massive amounts of freight across this former republic of ours. However, diesel engines are an anathema to the left, so they won’t push this proven technology. Even the gas/electric hybrids don’t really compare from an efficiency standpoint.

All of this electric crap is being pushed entirely by politics, and not reality, efficiency, or reason.

Modern petrol engines are amazingly efficient compared to those of just a few decades ago. (Same goes for diesels) I’m not sure how much more you can squeeze out of them beyond very marginal tweaking.

Yet, the communists and other assorted whackjobs want us driving coal powered vehicles.


22 posted on 12/29/2021 7:08:43 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

2.08 gears + over Drive = 55 mpg +

Hot Rod magazine had article about a guy built an old milk truck with a 4 cylinder diesel and a turbo 350 GM transmission and took a trip with his son the truck didn’t come out of low gear until 60 MPH.


23 posted on 12/29/2021 8:30:37 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
In the age before mass (electronic) communication, the 1st Amendment's protection of "the right of the people peaceably to assemble" was equally as important as the freedom of the press because the only way for large numbers of people to freely and instantaneously exchange ideas was in person. But freedom to "peaceably assemble" always was and always will be dependent on the individual's ability to move about freely.

This was nowhere more self-evident than the impact that the bicycle had (specifically the safety bicycle) on the Women's Suffrage movement because it provided women the utility to travel with relative ease and freedom that didn't involve public transportation, horses or the permission of their husbands.

In an era when censorship of and disinformation in all electronic media is rampant, the freedom to peaceably assemble once again looms large. And the battery-only electric vehicle potentially gives the government an ability to limit freedom of individual movement such as is unprecedented in this nation's history.

In no small part because a wide scale adoption of the BEV would result in the collapse of our electric grid. And as we've seen in Kommiefornia, one of the first casualties of rolling blackouts is the power source for Ed Begley Jr's dream car.

24 posted on 12/29/2021 8:44:24 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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