Posted on 12/27/2021 12:31:40 PM PST by Red Badger
I've heard the Teslas called "California Camrys"
I’m buying! Just as soon as I find a spare $40,000 in the couch cushions.
Mercedes would be an anchor on Tesla. I can’t imagine why they would buy it.
What does MPGe mean?
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Miles Per Gallon Equivalent. Equivalent electrical energy usage which give you the heat equivalent to burning a gallon of gasoline. Compares electrical energy to the thermal properties of Gasoline. Since it takes a lot more heat to generate electrical energy and then to turn it back to heat, than just to burn gasoline, this was surely created by somebody who loves EV to the degree that wants to show it in best light, even if it is misleading! (lying). It shows EV’s as being a lot more efficient as they really are.
If you really want fair comparison, to get equivalent MPG, you should divide MPGe by about 2.5 or 3x.
Tesla claims 15 minutes at a supercharger adds 200 miles of range. My Tesla driving friends say that’s about right.
https://www.tesla.com/supercharger
“EV’s are boutique vehicles.”
You’re not exactly current if you think that.
Sure it will. There are lots of Tesla Supercharging stations between LA and San Francisco, and with the right supercharger, you can add 200 mi range in 15 minutes.
“I’ve heard the Teslas called “California Camrys”
Not yet, but probably soon. Elon is aiming to bring out a Model that will compete directly with Toyota’s best selling car. I think the price point is around $25,000.
I have all of these friends who own them, I haven’t even ridden in one yet.
As a matter of fact A/c reduces the distance by like 27%.
But, that’s nothing compared to winter! In gasoline car heating is practically free, as it just re-routs the cooling heat to inside of the vehicle. No additional energy is needed, except for the fan.
On the other hand, EV has to burn all that electricity to generate heat. So during cold weather, EV makes only like half of the distance! Just terrible. Do not buy Tesla if you live in Canada!
To give EV credit when credit is due, EV recycles breaking energy and does not need to idle, so it is actually doing great in stop and go!
Stop and go in spring weather (no H or AC) is when EV compares well to gasoline.
Yeah, apparently driving style is a big factor. If you tend to brake hard using the conventional brakes, you won’t get much benefit from the regenerative braking. But if you learn to do “one pedal driving” where you use the motor braking that happens when you let off the gas pedal, you can conserve dramatically more energy.
Same here.
That being said, I think I'd like to replace one of my two gas cars with an EV and use the EV for most of our normal commuting (on days we use only 1 car) and use the gas car on trips or on days my wife and I have to run different errands in two different cars.
But then, I have a 10kW solar system on my house and it produces over half of the power I consume. There are about 55% days that I bring in more power than I consume or store in my battery storage -- it'd be nice if I could put that power to use on those days for things like charging an EV. And my solar inverter has a feature that I'm not using that'll power a circuit (or circuit panel) only when I have excess power (i.e. if the home solar batteries are full or at whatever setting I configure it to, say 90% full). So I could plug an EV into a special outlet that's powered intermittently and probably charge my EV for "free" for at least half of the 200-ish miles per week I drive my car -- with every now and then having to charge it with constant power (read: power I sometimes pull from the grid) if I go a few days in a row without sun.
But that works only for me and the few of us who have a large solar system on our houses. If most people get an EV without solar it would be yuge demand on the grid.
I figure that the computer does a better job of using the exact amount of energy to keep the car moving at my desired speed, and instantly compensates for changes in the grade of the road and the speed of traffic better than I can.
-PJ
My son with a Tesla 3 trekked from LA to Colorado, 1100 mi, a couple of weeks ago. The on-board computer mapped out all the stops, all at "super-chargers". The mapping, and the charge required at the stops, accounts for terrain, and probably temperature, so he didn't have any surprises going over 10,000' plus passes at 10 degrees F.
He sets it to charge only up to 90%, and discharge only down to 20%, to maximize his long-term battery life, so he did make several stops to get the 70% charge (he has the standard range); around 30 minutes each stop at "super-chargers".
You can hear tens of thousands of illegals in the Santa Ana area laughing at that comment.
“You can hear tens of thousands of illegals in the Santa Ana area laughing at that comment.”
You can’t kid me. Illegals weren’t driving Mercedes anyway.
Lowrider Chebbies are still the ride of choice on 4th Street, vato.
Old Chrysler minivans are the ride of choice for the Latino crew here in middle America.
They strip those things clean at PickAPart too.
You’re reasonable and logical...refreshing. Most aren’t.
Here in SE PA, our infrastructure is old. We have so much work to do.
The only worse waste I’ve seen in work is in my USAF career.
Budget starts OCT 1. We bought over 100K in tv’s SEP 30.
The reason was for tours. I was in a SCIF...
In utilities, one job, one day we paid me 6 HR’s OT, and a 100% T&M to appease a university President. Completely for looks, 40K for crew and my design.
Those are work trucks. The car of their dreams is a lowered 55 Chevy with dice hanging off of the mirror. Lights in the wheel wells. Spinner hubcaps. Dragnet knows, I can tell that he is a local who once cruised Whittier Blvd back in the day.
Que pasa ese?
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