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Is this a false memory?

Posted on 12/24/2021 7:15:00 AM PST by MNDude

I thought the vaccine needed to be transported at super cold temperatures. I remember that was a reason why this was considered such a complex operation.

Now it seems like they are shipped the same as commercial samples. Has something changed or are the stringent shipping requirements still in place?


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To: Renfrew

“they have proven the vaccine is safe to store and transport at a higher temperature.”

That is amusing.

They have no clue what the long term effect of these vaccines is—at any temperature.

“Proof”?

Nope!


21 posted on 12/24/2021 7:40:09 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: MNDude
You need to stop asking questions.


22 posted on 12/24/2021 7:41:45 AM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: MNDude

The mRna molecule and it’s host solution was designed and tested to be more stable at higher temperatures. It was a molecular engineering and pharmaceutical tour de force....that said, it does have issues...as in short term of development...troubling adverse reactions...no permanent effectiveness...unknown long term effects. What new facts will we discover down the road?


23 posted on 12/24/2021 7:41:59 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: MNDude

Odds are the extra “precautions” are like the security clown act the TSA runs at every airport.

Given the short memory of the MSM, you were supposed to have totally forgotten that by now.


24 posted on 12/24/2021 7:42:42 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, WuhanFlu)
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To: MNDude

I seem to remember there was also a strict schedule to do injections 1 and 2. Now it’s any old time will do.

The more the better!


25 posted on 12/24/2021 7:45:16 AM PST by Chunga85 (fatality rate 0.26)
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To: norwaypinesavage
It works the same, regardless of whatever temperature it’s shipped.

Yea, the damage is the same.
26 posted on 12/24/2021 7:45:42 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: bobbo666

almost seems like cold shipment was a Trump thing, and normal shipment is a Biden thing, although I don’t think it makes any difference.


27 posted on 12/24/2021 7:45:47 AM PST by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your vocabulary, it all begins to make sense)
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To: norwaypinesavage

“It works the same, regardless of whatever temperature it’s shipped.”

Which is to say it doesn’t protect you and may even kill you?


28 posted on 12/24/2021 7:46:21 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: MNDude
Seeing that the vax manufacturers have been ZERO liability for any damage or impotence of their vaccines - under an agreement with the U.S. gov.

To steal a line from Hillary, which has become our government's motto, “What difference does it make?”

29 posted on 12/24/2021 7:49:21 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Renfrew

I seem to recall a few batches going bad because of storage though... i can get behind what you’re saying though.

To me i thought the refrigeration requirement was also a control tactic. In my area we specialize in freezing (headquarters of Tyson and we have a lot of of food storage innovators) we had to shuffle refrigeration all over the area and were exporting our freezers. I remembered the hospital getting a “20,000 dollar unit” from don’s cold storage.

Either way i thought this freezing protocol existed to bring rural people to the refrigerators. In other words, trains loaded with people forced into going into processing centers because their municipality could not access thr expensive coolers.


30 posted on 12/24/2021 7:51:44 AM PST by Celerity
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To: MNDude

Yes, that was done initially to make us think these were space age technology, and space is cold. This was their marketing guy’s idea.

But it turned out to be too hard, and docs were throwing out the product if it got too warm.

So they fired their marketing guy and told us they juiced the formula up some and now it could be stored in a regular fridge.


31 posted on 12/24/2021 7:52:50 AM PST by Sarcazmo
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To: MNDude

It doesn’t work, cold or hot, so I guess it doesn’t matter one way or the other.


32 posted on 12/24/2021 7:59:53 AM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less!)
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To: Getready

I thought only the J&J vaccine was designed for higher temperatures. It’s a little different from the other mRNA vaccines in that it doesn’t directly inject mRNA. Instead it injects a virus carrying DNA which then gets converted by the cell into mRNA. Not sure why this approach avoided the super low temp requirement but IIRC it did.


33 posted on 12/24/2021 8:01:24 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: MNDude

The science changed.


34 posted on 12/24/2021 8:05:09 AM PST by nitzy
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To: MNDude

Apparently they learned the parasites in the vaxx can survive their trip to a new host at less than freezing temperatures.

Kidding.

Sort of…


35 posted on 12/24/2021 8:23:11 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: MNDude

I had the J&J (”No More Tears”) which needed only to be refrigerated, not kept in the deep freeze. This was supposedly another advantage to getting theirs instead of the Pfizer or Moderna ones the government was pushing so hard.


36 posted on 12/24/2021 8:48:26 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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To: MNDude

Pfizer requires ultracold freezers for long term storage but short term storage time in a regular freezer is approved for 4 weeks, maybe 6 weeks now.

Moderna has always been stored in regular freezers.

J&J has always been stored in refrigerators.


37 posted on 12/24/2021 8:48:59 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: BipolarBob

Yep


38 posted on 12/24/2021 9:14:38 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: BipolarBob

I don’t know what is inside. I am just repeating rumors and Conspiracy Theories, trying to stir things up. /S.


39 posted on 12/24/2021 9:26:05 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: MNDude

NOT a false memory, but is proof of the gaslighting we have been putting up with for two years.


40 posted on 12/24/2021 9:31:59 AM PST by left that other site (A Man Without Self-Control is like a City Broken Into and Left Without Walls (Proverbs 25:28))
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