[Red Badger]

The Nio ET5 promises up to 1,000 km range per chargeNio VIEW 11 IMAGES

[unixfox]

It even looks Chinese.

[Jonty30]

Give a headwind or winter and miles won’t be miles.

[fireman15]

It looks neat, but the Chinese are the most prolific exaggerators when it comes to specifications. Typically, when I buy Chinese lithium-ion cells from eBay or even Amazon and test them with an analyzer designed to calculate capacity I am pleasantly surprised if they have even half the advertised capacity.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013HP4N70/

[Brooklyn Attitude]

620 mile range, but it has to be mostly downhill.

[PLMerite]

“So customers are going to have to rent their own NADs...”

Obviously something not picked up during translation...

[Signalman]

If their cars have the same quality as their tires, I would take a pass.

[ThunderSleeps]

The one really deceptive thing about max range numbers is that they may not be what you think. If it says 620 mile range that does not mean you can get in it, point it at the horizon and go 620 miles. The range testing standards include a mix of some pure highway miles and some start/stop miles.

Since virtually all (or really all?) EVs now have regenerative braking systems, in start/stop driving the "stop" part is free. Actually, all the miles decelerating are not only free, but are giving back some range. So while you might get 600 miles of mixed rural/urban driving that included a fair amount of slowing down (regenerative charging), just hitting the interstate, even at modest speeds, you're going to get fewer miles of range.

I'd like the range tests to start breaking out numbers into multiple categories. Pure highway - step on it at say 60 or 65 mph, how far does it go. Pure urban/city driving - block to block, in-town kind of thing. Rural driving, some start/stop, modest say 45 mph speeds. Aside from those three numbers it would be nice to have some way of factoring in air conditioning and heating use.

For me, just running around town on a typical day I might need all of 40 to 50 miles of range. On any given day this might include some heat or AC, often in the same day. ;-) Even a low-end Chevy Bolt would do that easily. I'd have to charge up maybe twice a week. Of course being me I'd probably plug it in every evening just to keep it topped off. But then every once in a while there would be those 230 mile days that included 175 or so miles of 65 mph highway driving, some of them pre-dawn implying headlights and heat. That's going to be too much for a Bolt. In fact probably too much for most low end EVs, all of which cost $5K to $10K more than my car. I'd have to plan in a couple of hours break for charging to get home. Which is why I'm still driving a plain gas powered economy car.

In the end though, this is still a Chinese car. No thanks.

[ctdonath2]

My benchmark is Nissan Leaf with a ~25kWh battery good for about 100 miles. That’s about as minimal a car as is viable for normal runabout use (yes, qualifications apply - it’s a baseline).

100kWh battery this gives an optimistic 400 mile range - and they’re claiming 50% beyond that. You’re looking at serious reduction in safety structure to eliminate enough weight for that, expending a measly 166Wh per mile (vs 250Wh for Leaf).

I’ll grant the vehicle is likely viable, given current tech and living standards of China - unacceptable in first world countries.

“Sure you can buy a hamburger for $1, but then you’d have to eat it.”

[Alas Babylon!]

The all-electric Nio ET5 will come for a starting price of 328,000 yuan ($51,450) before government subsidies.

[Organic Panic]

Until it won’t. Until a new battery is made it has a limited temperature range.

[newfreep]

The Lucid Air Is a Tesla-Rivaling Luxury Performance Sedan

SuperCar performance
Power: 1,100HP
Range: 520 miles
0-60: 2.4 seconds

https://www.lucidmotors.com/air/configure

DougDeMuro Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRUvz1QPueA