Posted on 12/06/2021 1:22:32 PM PST by ransomnote
In yet another blow to human rights Australian Hayley Hodgson, 26, was very strangely picked up by uniformed police in what she called ‘a casino bus’ and taken to a ‘Covid Internment Camp’.
Hayley moved to Darwin from Melbourne to escape the never-ending lockdowns, — only to find herself locked up in a Covid Internment Camp without even having the virus.
Speaking to UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers, she said she had just returned from 14-day detention at Howard Springs, the government’s 2000-capacity Covid camp.
It all began when a friend of hers tested positive. She recounts how investigators came to her home shortly afterwards, having run the number plate on her scooter to identify her as a ‘close contact’. They asked if she had done a Covid test, and at the moment she lied and said she had when she in fact had not yet. This set in train an extraordinary series of events.
“We’ve just been told from higher up”
“So then the police officers blocked my driveway,” she says. “I walked out and I said, “what’s going on, are you guys testing me for COVID? What’s happening?” They said, “no, you’re getting taken away. And you have no choice. You’re going to Howard Springs. You either come with us now, and we’ll put you in the back of the divvy van. Or you can have a choice to get a ‘COVID cab’…
I just said, “I don’t consent to this. I don’t understand why I can’t just self-isolate at home, like a lot of other people are doing.” And they just said, “we’ve just been told from higher up where to take you. And that’s all that there is.”
You can watch the full account of Hayley’s experience below.
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Yes. That type of misunderstanding.
If she was a close contact, and it seems she was, then 14 days quarantine is standard. She seems to think that she was subjected to some additional penalty for lying. If that was true, she would have been locked up for more than 14 days.
That’s one apparent misunderstanding on her part.
She might have been allowed to quarantine at home if she hadn’t lied - I don’t know enough about her circumstances to know if that was considered an option. It would depend on her living conditions and whether others lived with her.
There is no ACDC - well, except for this one:
Australia doesn't have a CDC. The fact we don't is often being presented in the media here has a failure of the government to be prepared for COVID. The closest thing we have to anything with that name is ACDP - Australian Centre for Disease Prevention - and there is absolutely no reason she would have had any contact with them. They are, entirely a research organisation, with no jurisdictional authority anywhere.
I'm not saying she wasn't told what she says she was told. But I'm not sure who it was who told her this, because she doesn't give enough information to identify it.
>>quarantine is standard
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Quarantine for the healthy is standard TYRANNY. A Freeper once posted these wise words:
“Quarantine the SICK. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.”
And oh, she LIED so she deserves punishment as if she were a naughty child? Disgusting vomit-inducing tyranny-excusers make me sick.
#MeathooksForFascists
I do not believe quarantining people who have actually been exposed to a disease is tyranny.
I think way too many people in the western world have never seen the places where infectious disease is still rampant, and many are too young to remember what it used to be like even in the west.
I’m not convinced COVID is serious enough to justify this type of quarantine, but I don’t believe it’s right to just reject the idea on principle.
Never in the history of mankind have healthy people been forced to quarantine. Your belief that quarantining healthy people is not one liberty-minded people can legitimately espouse. It is repulsive in the extreme.
Sorry, but speaking as an historian, you're absolutely wrong about that.
Quarantining people who were exposed to disease was commonplace - not at all unusual.
If you don't know that, you've been fed incorrect information. I wonder why.
Are you implying governments have historically quarantined healthy people who have NOT been exposed, like they are doing now?
There are certainly times that has happened in history, although it's somewhat unusual.
But the thing is, that is not what is happening here. People are not being quarantined if they haven't been exposed.
The people who are being quarantined in this case are people who have been exposed. They are either infected or close contacts - close contact is the term used for a person who has been exposed.
Nobody is being quarantined in Australia unless they are either infected themselves or have been exposed. And that isn't an unusual or unprecedented approach.
As I've said, I'm certainly not convinced COVID is serious enough to justify this approach, but that is a different issue. And people can argue that without any need to rewrite history.
(Note - I would not absolutely rule out the possibility that there have been some individual cases where mistakes have been made. But it certainly isn't policy that people who haven't been exposed are supposed to be quarantined, and the woman in this case certainly seems to have been a legitimate close contact).
How do you define lockdowns?
Isolation of sick people and those testing positive is understandable. Isolating healthy people, those who test negative, and those who have already had the disease and developed antibodies is blatant tyranny.
It’s way past my bedtime, and I am off now until tomorrow.
Nowhere in Australia is currently under a large or long lockdown. A few small communities are under short ones.
Isolation of sick people and those testing positive is understandable. Isolating healthy people, those who test negative, and those who have already had the disease and developed antibodies is blatant tyranny.
I don't believe that requiring people who have been exposed to a disease during the incubation period of that disease violates is tyranny. I would add those to the first two groups you mention. Testing negative at the start or in the middle of an incubation period is no sort of guarantee that a person is safe.
I would generally agree with you that quarantining those who have already developed antibodies as a result of infection is unjustified. But that isn't the case in the situation we're discussing and as only 300 people in the Northern Territory have had COVID, I doubt it's relevant in any of the cases there.
She said “CDC” I assumed Australia had a counterpart.....
Naturalman offers invaluable insights on not only Australia but the whole of the commonwealth.
He offers disgusting apologetics for tyranny, and apparently so do you. Most of Australia's political leadership belong in an institution for the criminally insane along with you two lovebirds.
My father, a ‘Nam vet, greatly valued the Aussie’s contribution to the fray. Have you ever checked out Naturalman’s home page?
In dealing with political leadership in some countries it is important to sort out fact from fiction in one’s own position, because if there is much fiction mixed in, one’s position will be dismissed, however well it sounds in one’s own echo chamber.
Positive change is a better thing for others than a sweet sounding voice that leads nowhere.
I fail to see how responding to criticism about Australia’s perceived Covid actions with caustic comments about freedom loss in the US as an answer is ‘learning things.’
In large part, those here already knew that.
I don’t see any of my comments as directed specifically to the U.S., and I don’t think any of Naturalman’s are either.
The thread is about Australia. I’m writing primarily from a Canadian perspective, though I am reasonably aware of the U.S. perspective.
Umm, actually you have. I read a lot of your posts thoroughly and have over the years. I also appreciate you bringing first hand insight about a country most of us here really like and until lately had great respect for. The decline in my respect for Australian politics started about 2016 and their role in the “Five Eyes” attacks on Donald Trump.
Australian intelligence and left wing politicians threw in with the globalist cabal to defame and undermine perhaps the one true politician trying so save the free world from the tyranny we are now seeing in so called “western societies”. For the last couple months your postings here have thrown a lot of shade on what’s really going on in Aus. You’ve been outright denying these interments are happening. Then going so far as to say native Australian have actually asked to be placed in these camps and that’s why the were created.
This is the same behavior we see in this country from our left over the Critical Race Theory controversy. First there was denial it was being pushed in our schools, then the justifications as to why it is being taught. I can understand the cognitive dissonance we see from Australians as it’s hard to wrap one’s head around recent events sometimes, but please be truthful to yourself.
No. I have not.
This is a lie.
Naturalman offers invaluable insights on not only Australia but the whole of the commonwealth.
Agreed
I’d hope at least one of you would be good enough to eat some humble pie.
Not a chance.
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