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To: Hieronymus

I fail to see how responding to criticism about Australia’s perceived Covid actions with caustic comments about freedom loss in the US as an answer is ‘learning things.’

In large part, those here already knew that.


35 posted on 12/07/2021 3:53:55 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I don’t see any of my comments as directed specifically to the U.S., and I don’t think any of Naturalman’s are either.
The thread is about Australia. I’m writing primarily from a Canadian perspective, though I am reasonably aware of the U.S. perspective.


36 posted on 12/07/2021 4:11:14 AM PST by Hieronymus
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To: Gaffer
When Americans are constantly lying about my country and accuse us of being cowards because we're not fighting in the streets, I think bringing up the fact that a large number of Americans here are bitching about their last election being stolen but apparently doing nothing about it except bitch is quite legitimate.

I hate hypocrisy. It's even worse when it founded in lies.

It's perfectly legitimate to criticise Australia for things that are really happening. But when people are making things up as well - and that is happening - I find it extraordinary that people would rather believe the lies than be told the truth.

I have pointed out that some of the things Americans are being told are happening in Australia are either exaggerated, misleading, or outright lies. Some. Not all. But not what I am seeing is people claiming I have said nothing bad is happening - when I've been extremely explicit in saying repeatedly that there are some very real problems here. And people are going further and lying about what I've said. Just a few minutes ago in this thread, I saw somebody state that I've denied anybody has been detained in Australia. I have never said anything like that. Thousands of people have been required to quarantine in Australia throughout this pandemic. I've never denied that or come close to doing so.

44 posted on 12/07/2021 4:50:37 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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