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1 posted on 12/03/2021 10:25:34 AM PST by ransomnote
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2 posted on 12/03/2021 10:26:06 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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If you have time, would you correct the title? The correct title is:

Fully Vaccinated account for 9 in every 10 Covid-19 Deaths since August according to latest Official Data


3 posted on 12/03/2021 10:27:34 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

IATVP


4 posted on 12/03/2021 10:27:43 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ransomnote

Would that such data were available in the US.


5 posted on 12/03/2021 10:30:19 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: ransomnote

It’s like the opposite of “herd immunity”.

We’ve managed to make 90% of the population especially vulnerable to catching and transmitting the virus.


6 posted on 12/03/2021 10:31:00 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Alec Baldwin has killed more people than the Jan 6 protesters. And he will serve less jail time.)
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To: ransomnote

Safe and effective. Bad outcomes are “RARE”.


7 posted on 12/03/2021 10:32:59 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: ransomnote

ADE


8 posted on 12/03/2021 10:39:57 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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i guess they will soon redefine what it means to be unvaccinated.

unvaccinated- anyone who dies from covid-19

get the shot. dammit.


9 posted on 12/03/2021 10:40:16 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: ransomnote

Please stop with the ploy of just presenting raw numbers. It is misleading and unnecessary. All they do is discredit and confuse when there is no need for that. The rate numbers are convincing, relevant, credible and speak for themselves.

So all this really proves is that the vaccinations don’t work. That may be enough but it does not support comparison between the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups. Only rates of infection and death in the two groups and furthermore rates of infection by age groups prove anything.

If we can’t make our case with the whole truth and in an understandable way there is no case to be made.


10 posted on 12/03/2021 10:40:34 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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Vaccination is not an impenetrable shield. It works by inducing your system to produce antibodies designed to rapidly destroy the virus should it show up and start replicating within you. It still may prove contagious before your body can wipe it out, and your system might not be able to scale up the antibodies enough in time to stop a heavy viral load from doing its damage.

If the bulk of the country is vaccinated,, and the virus is extremely contagious, yes some vaccinated will contract/spread/die of it, and those numbers may exceed those of non-vaccinated (many naturally immune one way or another).

That’s not “covid vaccine apologizing”, that’s just recognizing facts.


11 posted on 12/03/2021 10:44:07 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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In a mostly vaccinated population all this proves is that the vaccine does not work well and that there are more vaccinated than unvaccinated.

If you realize the preponderance of vaccinated people you would infer that the rates of infection for the unvaccinated are higher than those for the vaccinated.

Why put out debatable and confusing information when the truth will do?

I just can’t let these deceptions and economies with the truth go unchallenged.


12 posted on 12/03/2021 10:45:21 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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Population control..Any way you can


14 posted on 12/03/2021 10:48:27 AM PST by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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This report is misleading. It counts cases by vaccination status as if they were equal values. But the vast majority of people in Scotland are vaccinated, so there are more people in that group. Having more cases among vaccinated people does not mean that the vaccines are not effective, or even more absurdly, have a negative effect. And that's not what the numbers show if you go look at the actual report they cribbed from.

As a share of population, those who were vaccinated have lower case counts than the unvaccinated. The opposite of what this report leads you to think.

17 posted on 12/03/2021 10:56:09 AM PST by mlo
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Is the tenth one not “fully vaccinated” yet?


18 posted on 12/03/2021 11:02:43 AM PST by Trillian
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Every person I know that has COVID has been “fully vaccinated”, with the exception of 2 who are unvaxed (& one of those got his case of COVID from fully vaccinated friends).

The last “reason” for getting the shots has now been discredited by Fauci himself, that last reason being “if you’ve had the shots, you’ll get a milder case & stay out of the hospital”. Fauci admits that younger, vaccinated people are in fact ending up in the hospital and worse, dying. CDC’s Walenky has admitted as much as well - getting the shots does not mean you’ll get a milder case/stay out of the hospital.

A friend just came down with COVID (fully vaxed, of course). His doc told him if he has breathing issues, go to the hospital - will not do anything in the way of early treatment. A relative, who has been clinging to the “if you got the shots, you’ll have a milder case” meme, was saying “BUT, he’s fully vaxed”. Well, now that he’s got COVID, it’s a “moot” point .... both unvaxed AND vaxed need early outpatient treatment to keep from getting a severe case & ending up in the hospital. Per the Death Gnome COVID Guru Fauci, you can’t rely on the shots alone to guarantee you’ll have a mild case.

The significantly higher death rate in the UK of vaxed to unvaxed tends to prove the point - you cannot rely on the shots to assure you a mild case that won’t put you in the hospital.


21 posted on 12/03/2021 11:06:31 AM PST by Qiviut ("Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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Wormwood.


22 posted on 12/03/2021 11:06:39 AM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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Assuming these numbers are accurate, they can be explained as follows:

Deaths attributed to covid occur almost exclusively among extreme high risk patients - very old and very sick, with serious co-morbidities.

This same group is also extremely likely to be vaccinated. In the current climate of covid vaccine mania, even healthy people are being put under intense pressure to take the shot.

It is highly unlikely that those old and sick enough to succumb to covid would have been able to resist constant urging to get the shots.

So, of course 9 out of 10 people declared dead from covid were “vaccinated” - I’m surprised it’s not higher.

But that does NOT mean the vaccinations are causing the deaths.

Likewise, if you found that 90% of people who died of covid ate chicken, that would also prove to causal relationship.


24 posted on 12/03/2021 11:17:20 AM PST by enumerated
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Below is an exerpt of the article. This is one of the aspects of the plandemic that does not get exposure elsewhere. 

"Table 20 of the latest ‘Covid-19 Statistical Report’ shows the number of Covid-19 hospitalisations per week by vaccination status. We’ve created the following chart on the published data from several reports, including the most recent published December 1st.

"As you can see from the above the data proves that it is the fully vaccinated population who have been putting a strain on the healthcare system and not the unvaccinated as the authorities and mainstream media would have you believe."

 

The data we routinely are given is distorted. The CDC and NIH, and similar organizations around the world elected to conceal the damage and uselessness of the 'vaccines' by arbitrarily defining 'vaccinated' as a state which exists only + 2 weeks after whatever vaccine limit the're on (Is it 2 plus a booster now?). This was, and is an intentional distortion and now all publications in the MSM follow suit.

Most people who die after being vaccinated do so within a few days of 'vaccination'. Look at the first 14 days in the chart below for deaths following 'vaccination' - those are counted as unvaccinated.

By simply declaring those people unvaccinated, countless needless deaths are concealed. This happens for every dose - the deaths and sudden illnesses are ignored. The apparent dive in immunity many experience which causes them to get sudden diagnoses of other illnesses, in addition to Covid, is concealed. So dying from immune suppression within days of 'vaccination' is counted as a "Covid" death. Actually the attached report says any positive Covid test within 14 days prior to hospitalization. Too much is hidden from the public.

The chart and many in the article combine 1 dose and 2 dose data correctly and compares them to unvaccinated. Fine if they want to provide separate lines for 1 dose and 2 dose, but combining them incorrectly just puts needless deaths and illness caused by 'vaccines' into the same group as the unvaccinated. It's a relief to find a publication that doesn't carry water for the MSM 'narrative'.

25 posted on 12/03/2021 11:25:37 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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This pretty much says it all...


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