Posted on 12/02/2021 4:14:47 AM PST by MtnClimber
The Democrats are doing everything they can to get Americans into electric cars. However, those cars come with the risk of a serious loss of power—not just for the car but for those who buy those cars.
We have to begin with asking why is the governing pushing electric vehicles? And it’s not just cars, it’s also trucks. Why are they ignoring hybrid vehicles? If something happens to the electric guts of a properly designed hybrid car, the vehicle can limp along with its smaller gas engine until it reaches safety. What happens to a fully electric vehicle if its electrical system fails? Nothing, of course! You’re stuck. All you have is a hunk of metal and plastic. And if you run out of electricity while driving, you can’t just get a gallon gas can to fill the tank until you get to the nearest service station. Again, you’re stuck.
The next question is, “Are electric cars cheaper than gas cars?” No, they cannot be cheaper, and that’s even if you run them on renewables. Take solar energy, for example. Even if sunlight is free, the laws of thermodynamics still control.
Every time energy changes form, there is a loss factor. Sunlight impinging on solar cells only changes 14-47% of the energy to electricity. The forty-seven percent figure is state-of-the-art, so it is not available for everyday use.
Electricity is then stored in chemical-based car batteries (with a loss). And then chemical energy is reconverted back to electricity (with a loss) and finally to mechanical energy where the tire rubber meets the road (with a loss). At a guess, not more than 5% of the original sun power turns the wheels of an EV car. That’s awful. What this means is that it is more efficient to run a gas-powered...
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The author's efficiency argument was ludicrous. Who cares what percentage of sunlight is converted to electricity? And similar inefficiencies occur with extracting, refining, transporting and burning oil, especially oil shale.
His concern about central control is valid. However, electrical generation can be distributed through solar panels, and battery storage, which is also improving.
Thanks to Joe Biden, we do have to work with OPEC instead of being energy dependent. Way to go Brandon.
All it would take is a freshly charged battery, ready to exchange and roll. My guess is that cars will soon run on exchangeable fuel cells, each cell good for several hundred miles.
We had electric public transportation in the late 19th century up until the 1940’s or 50’s. They were called trolleys.
Philadelphia put rubber tires on the trolleys. That solved the pounding noise issue of steel wheels in steel tracks on cobblestone streets. Unfortunately all the cable rigging to support the power cable for the commutator looks awful in a neighborhood.
Herald the return of steam power!
Lol, yep... That will be the reality of it. Real world cause and effect.
In my case, maybe 10% to 20% from my home solar system. I don't have an EV, nor am I sure I'll get one. But I'm thinking about something like the F-150 Lightning when it comes out in a year or two, so I'll use their specs.
They say it'll get 2 miles per kWh. I'll say 1.8 miles per kWh due to inefficiencies in things like converting the AC power from my panel into DC power for the EV's battery. (For comparison, my solar system has a 95% efficiency in the day-by-day report it gives me of DC power coming in from solar, going directly to charge the solar batteries, then being converted to AC as I use it to power my home.)
Then there's my wife and I driving a car for about 200 miles per week. We have two gas cars and will keep one if I replace my gas truck with an EV truck. And we like driving the truck more anyway (thus the new EV truck will be used more than the existing gas car). Plus I work from home a lot: meaning the truck would be parked in our garage at least two full days per week during the time of day the sun is shining and has often has already fully charged the solar batteries. If my wife drives the truck for a couple of hours and comes home, etc. I still have plenty of hours each week with direct solar-to-truck-charging hours without having to store the solar power in the home batteries and hope the home batteries have enough batteries in the evening to charge the EV after sundown (while also having enough power to power the house through the night). Those kinds of things are why I think I'd get 10% to 20% of my EV power "for free" with the system I already have.
And if I get an EV I may or may not upgrade the solar system. Without an EV, what I've put into the solar system already has run up to the point of the Law of Diminishing Returns. So I have no desire to upgrade the solar system at this point. But if I get an EV and drive it for a year, I'll probably study the data some and decide if upgrading the solar system in some way would be worth it ("worth it" being paying for itself in about 10 years assuming a 3% rise in kWh rate for inflation).
Isuzu used to in their trucks. AMC used to in their Hornet, Gremlin, Eagle, Jeep, products. Delivery took about three months. Of course the trend is self evident there. They all went out of the market or sold.
The American consumer is often their very own worst enemy. Getting exactly what you asked for and then regret.
Actually... Steam can be 95% efficient. More than any other form of power.
As stated.. depends on the charger. Nort to mention the installation cost of whatever type charger you purchase in your home.
Bottom line is electric cars are useless out side of a city for daily driving and interstate travel at this time. We’re not there yet technology wise.
I'm not expecting the truck to match the car -- that'd be ridiculous whether EV or gas. But I am asking if the increase in your power bill to drive the Mach E is no more than what you expected (based on the brochure version of what Ford said how the Mach E would perform). If the Mach E meets those kinds of expectations then I can feel comfortable that the Lightning will meet its expectations (i.e. the purported 2 miles per kWh that Ford says the Lightning will get unless carrying cargo).
I stated charging times depends on the charger and where the battery level is at the time of charging.
Me.. I prefer the gas or diesel engine, loud mufflers and burnouts. Low MPG is irrelevant if we get back to energy independence vice imports on foreign fuel.
Lithium battery technology has a long way to go not to mention the environmental damage caused by lithium mining and throw away batteries.
That is a fact. I have never bought a new car. Always fixed up older Classics. Building a 78 4X4 van right now. Someone converted it to electric windows back when. I just converted them back to crank handle. I do not want to be dependent on power to roll the windows up or down. My battery might be dead.
This country is lazy... Too lazy to even roll a manual window up or down. I remember when heater “Climate control” was reaching down and turning the knob on or off as needed.
Folks now want their cars to not only do all the labor for them because they are lazy, they want the car to “think” for them because they are too lazy to think for themselves.
Like you say, we deserve what we are now getting for being lazy.
That lesson every once in a while affirms your awareness of function over convenience. I wish everyone could experience similar re-evaluations from their day to day lives.
By my own experience and that of others (YouTube, online forums, etc.) Tesla overstates it’s mileage and Ford understates it.
Standard battery for me, dual motors, 220 mile theoretical max. With 85% charge and keeping it above a 20% charge my effective daily range is over 100 miles per day. Way more than I need.
I’ve had it since July. My electric bill is on a monthly average pay, so I have to do some research with my usage before I can confirm my estimate of $50/m EV vs. a fill up per week that used to cost me a lot less than the almost $50 fill up costs me now (Let’s Go Brandon). That’s with a Grand Cherokee V8 hemi.
Incredible how STUPID many here are. The WHOLE INTENT of these people is to collapse the country. It ALWAYS has been and ALWAYS will be. Global Warming is simply their vehicle. People on our side need to ACCEPT that reality...they know EXACTLY what they’re doing, and EXACTLY what will come of it.
I get that challenge. I have had to drive backroads by only moonlight because my headlights went out. These challenges are good, and make you appreciate having even minimal operability. :)
“The WHOLE INTENT of these people is to collapse the country.”
Concur. Wife is getting tired of me saying it.
Things are gonna get worse before we win.
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