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To: DEPcom

I’d really like to know just how vitamins can cure a virus...everybody keeps pushing that and the Ivermectin. And NO I am not interested in some anecdotal websites or doctors of chiropractic opinions.

What is of concern is how these alleged “cures” might keep someone from actually seeking any medical help if they really are stricken with Covid and need medical attention. There is way too much misinformation out on the ‘Net and people who see that might not seek help if they need it. I really don’t want anyone to die just because they read about something on the ‘Net that might or might not work.

You can flame me all you want but there are a lot of people who believe things that may not be true and it could cost them or a family member their lives...and I doubt anyone here would want that to happen...to anyone.

And for the record I do NOT believe there is anything nefarious in the vaccines and Bill Gates is not tracking anyone. Nor do I believe that there will be a mass die off in a few years and that there is some giant conspiracy to make that happen.

But then again what do I know...maybe my Illuminati brothers really are controlling the world...:)


21 posted on 11/30/2021 10:59:37 AM PST by Bassfisher2022
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To: Bassfisher2022

My brother had a nasty case of covid and the doctor who treated him essentially said the vitamins/Ivermectin and other drugs allow the zinc to enter the virus and destroy it. He was wallowing around the normal out of hospital treatment and fighting double pneumonia until he changed doctors and added Ivermectin to the treatment. Within two days he was feeling much better.


27 posted on 11/30/2021 11:13:32 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Bassfisher2022

The problem is that medical care is highly politicized. There are treatments that work all over the world but are not used in many places in the US.

The CDC and NIH have so muddied the waters that they have little credibility. One size does not fit all, it is the jab or you are evil. There are lots of questions that they do not like to answer.

In my case, I got the Wuhan flu last year, when the vaccines came there was little data on natural immunity. So I reluctantly got the jab. I would not do that now, there is little data on this now, most is foreign.

This is not science, it is political science.


28 posted on 11/30/2021 11:18:23 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Bassfisher2022

It must be wonderful to be so naive.


29 posted on 11/30/2021 11:29:06 AM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Bassfisher2022

Are you interested in research?

https://ivmmeta.com/

https://c19zinc.com/

https://c19vitamind.com/

https://c19vitaminc.com/

https://c19quercetin.com/

https://c19regn.com/

https://c19aspirin.com/

https://c19hcq.com/

https://c19melatonin.com/


37 posted on 11/30/2021 11:48:34 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Bassfisher2022

My elderly Mom’s Doctor just said at her yearly physical that for someone her age COVID might be a blessing. He then recounted the ‘Pneumonia was called the old Man’s Friend’.

So, does anyone actually know any old men dying of pneumonia who uttered those actual words? I don’t.


43 posted on 11/30/2021 11:55:34 AM PST by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: Bassfisher2022
africa has very low covid rates....and very low vaccination rates...

Why?...

well it might be because of their history with malaria and other diseases that they routinely use anti parasite drugs, such as ivermectin...

THINK.....

even falsi said that ivermectin would work for the original Sars....

I'd advise you to do your non google research for the names of Dr. Lee Merritt, Dr. Bryan Ardis, Dr. Malone, founder of mrna btw, Dr. Luke Montangier, Nobel Prize winner, Dr. Zelenko, and the list goes on and on...

I hope we don't have a massive die off or I'm losing most of my family....

btw, remdesivir which was strictly the only drug that falsi and cdc would approve had a horrible trial when being used to treat ebola and they had to stop it when 50% of the test subjects died....

44 posted on 11/30/2021 11:59:00 AM PST by cherry
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To: Bassfisher2022

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/#__ffn_sectitle


45 posted on 11/30/2021 12:00:03 PM PST by DrewsMum
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To: Bassfisher2022
I’d really like to know just how vitamins can cure a virus...everybody keeps pushing that and the Ivermectin.

Vitamins and supplements play various roles in blocking binding to ACE receptor sites or suppressing viral reproduction and other functions of infection. 

And NO I am not interested in some anecdotal websites or doctors of chiropractic opinions.

There are plenty of expert opinions out there. These days, many doctors of chiropractic or others who aren't physicians are now putting out information supplied by experts who don't want to lose their license to practice medicine.

What is of concern is how these alleged “cures” might keep someone from actually seeking any medical help if they really are stricken with Covid and need medical attention.

Most physicians and hospitals refuse all treatments to patients. We had a Freeper who worked so hard to get actual treatment. Her physycian turned her down, she called the hospital and staff there confirmed that they do not offer any treatments-oxygen only (welp, that's better than remdesivir). She worked to get monoclonals, but upon arrival to her appointment was told her O2 was now too low to receive them. ULtimately she went into the hospital, where she died without ever receiving treatment, according to her daughter. 

Since then, the CDC's "Covid Protocol" has been implemented in many places, and it horrible, with death and dialysis but two possible outcomes from the treatment alone.

There is way too much misinformation out on the ‘Net and people who see that might not seek help if they need it. I really don’t want anyone to die just because they read about something on the ‘Net that might or might not work.

Then perhaps you support Ivermectin and HCQ? Both are FDA approved with long safety records. No point in denying the right to try them, right?

The doctors/hospitals are weaponized and the public is responding the old fashioned way - they are learning to improvise and do the best they can, and it's better than the CDC's Covid Protocol. 

There are many physician administered treatments that are highly effective and well treated, and the CDC pretends they don't exist. Here's a good resource for doctors, treatments, and even suggestions for post 'vaccine' (or pre) supplementation.

NEW COMPREHENISVE COVID WEBSITE: EARLY COVID CARE EXPERTS (ECCE) includes treatments, finding a doctor, minimizing the effects of Covid 'vaccines' Dr. McCullough, Dr. Zelenko et. al.

You can flame me all you want but there are a lot of people who believe things that may not be true and it could cost them or a family member their lives...and I doubt anyone here would want that to happen...to anyone.

Those trusting the CDC and hospitals are dying and I don't want that to happen to anyone.

47 posted on 11/30/2021 12:07:00 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Bassfisher2022
"I’d really like to know just how vitamins can cure a virus...everybody keeps pushing that and the Ivermectin."
Assuming you question is honest: vitamins help your immune system, particularly the B, C, and D (the sunshine vitamin). That is why colds are common in winter in northern latitudes. Zinc (use to treat colds for years) if it gets into the cell will block viral replication. Ionophores like hydroxychloroquine or to a lesser extent quercetin, transport the zinc through the cell walls. Ivermectin is an antigen that attaches to the protein spike of the virus and to the ACE2 receptor on the cell (where the virus penetrate) preventing to virus from entering the cells and reproducing.
57 posted on 11/30/2021 4:16:55 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Bassfisher2022

I might add that the ionophore hydroxychloroqine plus zinc effect on SARS virus has been known since the early 2000 through Electron Microscopy. In addition, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine both show anti-inflammatory properties that helps keep lungs from clogging from the coronavirus.


58 posted on 11/30/2021 4:52:08 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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