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1 posted on 11/27/2021 8:31:14 AM PST by euram
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Too little too late. I have already cut them out of my Will.


2 posted on 11/27/2021 8:32:20 AM PST by oldasrocks
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I *had* great respect for the Salvation Army. I hope this controversy is cleared up, one way or the other. So if anyone knows what’s actually going on here, please let us know.


3 posted on 11/27/2021 8:34:15 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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I normally give to them when I enter the store. I see very few giving this year. I wonder if it’s for the same reason as me.


4 posted on 11/27/2021 8:35:20 AM PST by BipolarBob (I thought growing old would take longer.)
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Let’s see - “change your mind” (= “repent”) for your skin color???

How in the world could anyone possibly do that even if they wanted to?


5 posted on 11/27/2021 8:36:15 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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We made our annual donation yesterday and asked for a refund today!


6 posted on 11/27/2021 8:36:20 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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They are stating the claims are false. What proof do we have that they actually said what is claimed? Serious question. Too often such claims are made just to inflame us. Their statement was pretty emphatic.


9 posted on 11/27/2021 8:40:11 AM PST by JaguarXKE (Liberalism is a cancer on our nation.)
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Skepticism is the order of the day. SA is a very effective Christian organization. I can’t imagine that anyone would plant false information to harm the organization.

Do I really need a sarcasm tag?


20 posted on 11/27/2021 8:53:39 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Culture, culture, culture. Not partisan politics. )
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Straight from their own manual on this:

The attached document is a voluntary discussion guide from the International Salvation Army. The tool has been provided through the International Social Justice Commission and is designed to stimulate gracious discussion among Salvationists who choose to participate.

*****

The desire is that Salvationists achieve the following:

• Understand and acknowledge the definitions of race and racism and how the social construct of race has affected society.

• Hear first-hand testimonies of racist treatment and come to appreciate the ways that racism has impacted fellow Salvationists.

• Understand God’s design for a diverse and unified humanity.

• Move from the flawed human idea of race and culture into God’s design and purpose for us to live as a unified, diverse and equitable people.

Lament, repent and apologize for biases or racist ideologies held and actions committed.p3

******

Perhaps God spoke to you during your time of lament, and you have an idea of what you need to repent and apologize for. Please take time to write out or think about how you can repent and apologize (referring back to the six questions at the beginning of this session).p5

24 posted on 11/27/2021 8:58:19 AM PST by ealgeone
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I’ll never say a good thing about them ever again


26 posted on 11/27/2021 8:59:10 AM PST by I want the USA back
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One March a tornado tore through a community near here. Many people were killed and lots and lots of personal property damaged. Instead of giving to a group to parcel out the needs, the hubs and I raided our closets for supplies, and stuff and handed out cash as we saw a need. Of course, we didn’t get a tax break. But I know people were actually helped.


27 posted on 11/27/2021 8:59:27 AM PST by Jemian
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Woke and liars. They just cut their own throat.


31 posted on 11/27/2021 9:04:50 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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Let the bastards go broke.

As a white man, I am sick of organizations insulting me just because I am white, and then calling ME a racist, just because I am white, and THEN expecting me to give them money.

Well screw that and screw them.

They can get their money from all of the woke leftists and non-whites that have supported them over the years. Oh, wait...


34 posted on 11/27/2021 9:09:52 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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I have been very skeptical about the supposed “statement” from the Salvation Army from the beginning. It just doesn’t sound like them and it’s not the kind of thing they get involved in. I suspect pure malice against maybe the most effective charitable organization out there is at the root of this.


35 posted on 11/27/2021 9:10:06 AM PST by Bayan
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Then why do they have it on their own web site?

Here are 2 links

https://www.salvationarmy.org/isjc

and

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cache.salvationarmy.org/e0c074e3-39db-4b09-a6ea-aa5bdb6ecaa6_Let%2527s%2520Talk%2520About...%2520Racism%2520COMPLETE%2520SET.pdf

Check out this article too.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/11/18/salvation-army-leaders-saddened-by-chick-fil-a-decision-to-drop-charity/

They are panicking now because word is getting out.


40 posted on 11/27/2021 9:13:47 AM PST by Enlightened1
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"I'm sorry for being white!"

41 posted on 11/27/2021 9:15:35 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/story/the-salvation-armys-response-to-false-claims-on-the-topic-of-racism/


It reads like a non-denial denial. People mis represnted what we wrote (paraphrase).

Judge for yourself but it seems they have become “woke” and were not prepared for the backlash.


44 posted on 11/27/2021 9:18:28 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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Heard today the Salvation Army Riverview Florida will not feed a person if they don’t have the jab.


45 posted on 11/27/2021 9:18:43 AM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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We used to have some neighbors who were SA missionaries. The guy was pleasant enough. Side story. He had a small fishing boat named “Visitation.” You can complete the story of what his wife would say if people called him on the phone while he was fishing.

His kids came to my house selling something for a fundraiser. I was broke at the time and didn’t have any cash in the house. The kids never talked with my kids again. Talk about holding a grudge.


47 posted on 11/27/2021 9:24:02 AM PST by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR)
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In the past, I have always dropped a few dollars into every Salvation Army basket I passed going into or leaving a
store.
Methinks, I will pass this year.


55 posted on 11/27/2021 9:32:10 AM PST by Tupelo
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I will entertain them weaseling out. Let’s see what the message is.


60 posted on 11/27/2021 9:38:31 AM PST by jimfree (My 19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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