Posted on 11/21/2021 8:27:57 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
Over the summer, the Los Angeles City Council Public Safety Committee approved a proposal to expand Fire District 1, an anachronistic planning overlay that would effectively ban wood-frame construction in much of the city. Superficially premised as a measure to improve fire safety, the motion has been heavily promoted by special interests in the concrete industry, who would heavily benefit from the prohibition. Yet as less partial observers have pointed out, the motion would significantly increase the cost of constructing housing in Los Angeles, to no clear fire safety benefit.
According to a report by the Los Angeles Department of Building and Safety, expanding Fire District 1 would raise building materials costs by anywhere from 10.6 to 47.1 percent.
Few would doubt the need for robust fire safety or strict building standards. But the reality is that expanding Fire District 1 improves upon neither.
(Excerpt) Read more at pacificresearch.org ...
And here’s how you know that leftists are morons and retarded.
Concrete (according to leftist propaganda) does far FAR more harm to contribute to global warming because it has a higher carbon factor. But now they want all houses to be built with it in California.
Why?
Because, like, we have to stop houses made from wood from burning in forest fires.
What causes forest fires?
Lightning strikes or out of control camp fires (or *cough* intentional arson by antifa *cough*) burn through dry forests - especially dense ones.
Why are they so dense?
Because we PROTECT the forests and let them grow organically and without human interference because we are GREEN!
So... wouldn’t it make more sense to cut trees down to make firebreaks in the forests and manage density to cut down on forest fires (which destroy WHOLE FORESTS) and then use THAT wood for home construction? Economic. Efficient and also GREEN - because it both saves the forests and will stop concrete housing which is more environmentally damaging.
“Because shut up you white fascist!”
It is hilarious when the CA lefties talk about “sustainable development”.
Most of the larger cities are on earthquake fault lines!
You can’t get less “sustainable” than that.
Concrete structure supported by Cinese steel. What can go wrong?
That said, stick built apartments are generally crap inside of 30 years in my estimation.
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FWIW
In China, concrete buildings are generally crap as soon as the construction crews leave ...
I guess it doesn’t matter when the BIG SLIDE comes. Unless that it can float...
Steel studs and trusses is their answer, not concrete block
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Oddly, concrete burns better than you’d imagine and the right pressure-treated lumber burns far less easily than you’d imagine. There’s a big movement to use lumber in the sort of construction long dominated by concrete and rebar
Indeed I was in the 94 Northridge quake and the stuff broke like glass.
Good. Maybe lumber prices will come down in NC.
>> More costly, yes, but anyone with half of mine can see that a brick or concrete building is less of a fire hazard than a wood constructed one. <<
I’ve got about two-thirds of a copper mine, but I’m not sure how that helps.
In seriousness, concrete turns to dust in a fire. The materials around the concrete burn enough for this to happen.
I misstated this: Concrete BUILDINGS burn better than you’d imagine. The concrete doesn’t actually burn; it just crumbles into dust while everything AROUND it burns. The crumbling allows the fire to move through a building.
“Steel studs and trusses is their answer, not concrete block”
I read the posts looking for one like yours. Agreed.
Aren’t most commercial buildings done with metal as you describe?
Why are there so many posts here that don’t mention steel?
Well, then we just need special seismic construction procedures to address that issue, that can cost much….. you know wood has flexibility…..
And yet it’s people from your state and others who come to California and ruin this place. 90% of all leftists in California were not born in California
Pretty sure l the concrete will come from china. Do they even make cement in California anymore?
Not only that, a few are built near volcanoes.
Naples Italy for one.
As far as Earthquakes go, the whole dang island of Japan.
They found out during the 2011 quake that the skyscrapers not only swayed, they quivered. I have seen discussion from engineers that said those buildings had only a few more minutes and they would have started coming apart.
You ought to see the videos of them. They when high speed on the videos and when I saw that I went HOLY COW!
Concrete construction will give more of a third world look and feel to match the population
Mud huts don’t burn, well, not well anyway... unless the cow dung pile gets lit too.
Insane has many names..
‘California DemocRats’ is but one of them.
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