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All Cause Mortality in Britain: Vaccinated people under 60 are twice as likely to die as unvaccinated people. And overall deaths in Britain are running well above normal.
t.me ^ | November 20, 2021 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 11/20/2021 8:32:52 AM PST by ransomnote

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To: ransomnote

Honest and respectful question.

At this point, given the overwhelming data, why should we believe the VAERS data when it is put in the system and administered by the same people who deny the effectiveness of ivermectin, HCQ, and other therapeutic treatments?

They might as well allow Merck and Pfizer to administer the VAERS system.


61 posted on 11/20/2021 9:53:02 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: bagster; TauntedTiger
ALL CAUSE death rates. Explain that..

Did you read the footnote I posted?

The unvaccinated 10-59 cohort is on average younger than the vaccinated 10-59 cohort.

Older populations have higher all cause mortality rates.

I realize this can be a little complicated...

Do you wonder at all why Alex didn't post any data for the older cohorts?

62 posted on 11/20/2021 9:54:32 AM PST by semimojo
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To: volunbeer
New study from Germany confirms higher vax coverage --> higher excess mortality
substack.com ^ | November 19, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

Posted on 11/20/2021, 9:54:02 AM by ransomnote

[H/T Volunbeer]

63 posted on 11/20/2021 9:54:53 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: volunbeer
I expect lies from the media, big pharma, and politicians. The dishonesty of medical professionals who anecdotally must see this even more clearly than we do is the biggest disappointment to me.

The people you trust the most.
Q


64 posted on 11/20/2021 9:55:28 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: TauntedTiger
All of my three (adult) children are vaxxed, as are the spouses of the two who are married. Four of the five have had Covid-19, as have four of their five (unvaccinated) children. All cases have been minor, with cold-like symptoms, as are most cases of Covid-19 among the unvaccinated in their age groups.

I am glad I am retired, because I would have faced a vaccine mandate by now, and I think it could literally kill me (I have a family history of stroke; I am not close to being obese, and I have mild Type II diabetes and mild hypertension. I weigh these things, take OTC precautions against Covid-19 every day, and feel safer unvaxxed than vaxxed.)
65 posted on 11/20/2021 9:57:25 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Rurudyne
FDA wants to slow walk FOIA request over a 55+ year timeframe.

Maybe this is why?


There is only one reason to delay the release of information: so that when the truth is exposed, it is too late to do anything about it, neither to prosecute perpetrators, nor to stop the intended result. By the end of their 55 year period, the "vaccines" will have done whatever they are intended to do.
66 posted on 11/20/2021 9:57:39 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: semimojo
Do you wonder at all why Alex didn't post any data for the older cohorts?

Does it matter? ALL CAUSE DEATHS are up in the age bracket of 10 - 59.

Fact.

#YouGetStupiderByTheMinute

#StopDiggingBro


67 posted on 11/20/2021 9:59:07 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Bobalu
I’m not among the jabbed but the healthier a person is the less likely they probably are to get the jabs...

That has not been my observation at all. The pressure to accept the experimental drug is enormous, and a lot of people for whom it makes no sense to receive it are taking it simply to fit in or be able to do things like travel.

I just had a conversation the other day with a 22 year old guy who was planning to take it, and he didn't want to, but he was going to take it so he could go to a football game. A f***ing football game.
68 posted on 11/20/2021 10:02:08 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: Ceebass

Actually I was being facetious.


69 posted on 11/20/2021 10:05:32 AM PST by BipolarBob (I thought growing old would take longer.)
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To: ransomnote

Imagine a giant jar of one billion M&Ms and the government insists that every man, woman and child in the US needs to reach inside and eat 2 of them but .05% (500,000) of the M&Ms are laced with a fatal amount of cyanide, would you still be willing even eat just one? How about 2? Or 3? Or continue to eat one every 6 months if the government insists it’s necessary for the common good and welfare of the nation?


70 posted on 11/20/2021 10:07:39 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: semimojo
"Do you wonder at all why Alex didn't post any data for the older cohorts?"

Yes, because he was trying to focus on the segment of the population where mortality is generally low, and where any adverse effects of the vaccines might be more apparent and more relevant. If he had included the older age groups, you probably would have made an issue of THAT.

In the younger age groups, most of the co-morbidities that are associated with the vast majority of Covid-19 deaths are neither as common nor as deadly as in the older groups.
71 posted on 11/20/2021 10:08:00 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Bob434

I like to make a slice of buttered Rye toast, then I fry an egg with a slice of cheese on it and put that on the toast.

My open-face breakfast sandwich...less than a buck and tastes great.


72 posted on 11/20/2021 10:17:00 AM PST by Bobalu (Figure out what you like, learn enough to be dangerous, and then start fiddling around)
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To: semimojo

Hi leftist troll and previously banned mojo.

You really had to dig deep in the data to come up with that irrelevant footnote.

But don’t worry everyone. Leftist troll mojo says its fine to get the poison shot because thousands aren’t dropping dead from it (yet).

Except maybe Berenson’s chart says they are?


73 posted on 11/20/2021 10:17:53 AM PST by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: Bobalu

Sounds good, I love a good rye bread. I have been microwaving eggs in a bowl of water for about 1 1/2 minute or so (gotta watch it closeley to get it before the yolk turns solid) for poached eggs which I love too. A lot easier to clean up afterwards. Youtube has some vids on it. Pretty easy to do, and tastes good too.


74 posted on 11/20/2021 10:22:10 AM PST by Bob434
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To: ransomnote
For what it's worth, in the U.S., since the pandemic began the month that saw the highest percentage of "excess death" (i.e., all-cause mortality) was December 2020, at 144%. The second highest was the April 2020 (i.e., the initial flatten-the-curve "surge" month), at 138%. Third, also at 138%, was January 2021. No one, of course, had been vaccinated as of April 2020, whereas the vaccine rollout had just been initiated in December 2020/January 2021.

Fourth on this list of the months with the highest percentage of all-cause mortality "excess death" was this past September 2021, at 135%. Fifth was August 2021, at 132%. By August 2021, of course, millions of Americans had been vaccinated.

All the data for October 2021 has yet to be compiled. The current figure is 113%, compared to 117% for October 2020. Deaths involving COVID, however, have increased in October 2021 (i.e., at 38,054) compared to October 2020 (i.e., which saw 24,909 such deaths).

75 posted on 11/20/2021 10:23:46 AM PST by DSH
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To: bagster
The people you trust the most.

Those who trust "medical professionals" are some of the biggest fools out there, sorry to say. I mean, I suppose it's understandable, but people really do need to wake the eff up.

76 posted on 11/20/2021 10:26:26 AM PST by DSH
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To: Steve_Seattle
In the younger age groups, most of the co-morbidities that are associated with the vast majority of Covid-19 deaths are neither as common nor as deadly as in the older groups.

Quite right, and thus is the death rate for all causes lower as well. However, there is a large difference between those in their twenties and thirties and for instance the age group 50 - 59. The data is there in the Xls-file.

If one assumes (a big IF since the data is not presented in this file) that 90% of the people in the age group 50 - 59 years are vaccinated, then one can correct for the age bias in the two groups (assuming that all other ages are equally vaccinated) and then there is no difference in deaths between unvaccinated and vaccinated.

When the people who are publishing this data are aware of the age-bias one wonders why they present the data without one more data-sheet showing the effect of correcting for the age-bias? Sloppy to say the least!

As it stands the data certainly indicate an increased mortality in vaccinated people in the younger to middle-aged age-group, though, I suspect if a proper correction for age had been carried out there would not be any difference.

On the basis on such sloppy data people are asked to decide whether to get vaccinated or not! Really bad!

77 posted on 11/20/2021 10:26:53 AM PST by ScaniaBoy
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To: Ceebass

While his footnote is interesting, I was thinking another possible explanation is that the vaccinated included a larger percentage of this with health risks. That would make sense as those folks are told to get vaccinated.

Just pointing this out. I’m sure we’re just learning the vaccine risks.

Also I’d like to know the differences in mortality from covid for vaccinated/ unvaccinated.


78 posted on 11/20/2021 10:26:56 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Between 2 January and 24 September 2021, the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people.....

If you want to talk covid vs all cause mortality:

Your period covers Jan thru Sep. From Jan-Apr the vax was being rolled and most people were unvaxed. So for about 40% of your time period the unvaxxed were almost exclusively the ones getting covid.

Also I believe the UK like the US doen’t count anyone as “vaxxed” until 2 weeks after the 2nd shot.

So your conclusion is based on data that is heavily skewed in favor of the vaxxed sample.


79 posted on 11/20/2021 10:28:45 AM PST by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: DSH
Those who trust "medical professionals" are some of the biggest fools out there, sorry to say. I mean, I suppose it's understandable, but people really do need to wake the eff up.

The Great Awakening.
Q


80 posted on 11/20/2021 10:31:25 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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