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1 posted on 11/18/2021 10:02:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Tesla CEO Elon Musk, whose company has become synonymous with electric cars, is among the most vocal critics of using hydrogen as a transportation fuel, citing its inefficiency relative to batteries and the high cost of the fuel cell stacks that make electric power from hydrogen and oxygen.

Yet makers of trucks and commercial vehicles that need to travel long distances aren’t convinced that multi-ton, lithium-ion battery packs that need relatively long recharge times are the best option. (Notably, Musk also doesn’t launch his SpaceX rockets with batteries, but instead a blend of kerosene and liquid oxygen that spew climate-warming black carbon, or soot.)


2 posted on 11/18/2021 10:03:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 11/18/2021 10:03:56 AM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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What climate crisis? I think they are making it up.


4 posted on 11/18/2021 10:04:21 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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I want to see the solar powered D-11. Upgraded RC memorial edition with faux corinthian leathet interior.


5 posted on 11/18/2021 10:07:14 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Dear Climate Charge hysterics

How are you gong to generate the electricity for all those electric cars and trucks?

And no, wind, biomass, solar etc do not, and will never, generate enough, power to supply the needed electricity.

6 posted on 11/18/2021 10:07:46 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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Well, the tech for ‘splitting the electron’ is rolling out in the next couple of years, and the energy ‘gain’ is 100x to 200x over that of simply burning Hydrogen. So, there is that.


8 posted on 11/18/2021 10:08:51 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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Fun fact:
There are electric dump trucks which never need external charging - they go uphill empty, fill up, then use regenerative braking hauling cargo downhill, getting enough energy to repeat.

Very narrow use case, yes, but interesting/amusing.


9 posted on 11/18/2021 10:09:12 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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“If you’re flogging one thing and you trash the other, it's not a good plan for meeting the challenge of climate change,” he said from Glasgow. “Climate change is the existential crisis of our time. It’s just not a good idea to argue about whether batteries are better than fuel cells.”

Did he really say that. Because if he was talking from the cab of a truck with a Cummins idling, then it's likely nobody could actually hear him.

12 posted on 11/18/2021 10:10:25 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Luckily strip-mining the raw materials for batteries is good for the environment. 🤡


13 posted on 11/18/2021 10:12:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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Imaginary solutions for an imaginary problem.....


14 posted on 11/18/2021 10:12:41 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Millenials, Metros and queers populate a great deal of the upper cadre of many major US institutions


15 posted on 11/18/2021 10:13:55 AM PST by knarf (?<p>Little kids grow up to be adults that get into powerful positions and act out their thoughts.<pg)
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Is not this how innovation to fight climate change (real or imagined) should be handled? Private enterprise and market forces finding solutions rather than government edict?

Then again the cynic in me might think this is just another CEO positioning their company to be near the front of the line for the impending flood of government funding for climate change?

16 posted on 11/18/2021 10:14:51 AM PST by buckalfa (I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
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Water vapor is a greenhouse gas. They are holding that card back until a few trillion has been spent on hydrogen infrastructure.


20 posted on 11/18/2021 10:19:17 AM PST by beef (The Chinese have a little secret—diversity is _not_ a strength.)
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My son has a battery operated Snapper push mower. It is powered by a Briggs and Stratton system. Makes perfect sense as a product.

Brandon says the next big thing is battery powered generators.


23 posted on 11/18/2021 10:21:06 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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We will still need Diesel engines to run the generators needed to charge EVs.


25 posted on 11/18/2021 10:22:13 AM PST by Fresh Wind (You are not a horse, you are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it.)
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This is sooooooo STUPID!

Ignoring all the NEGATIVES (pun intended) about battery power.

Like windmills. Oh, how wonderful. To get FREE energy “from the wind”.

EXCEPT, for all the problems associated them.

Like when the wind don’t blow! Never mind the birds!

BUT, wind power has the BIGGEST environmental footprint of all energy production.

Nuclear has the smallest footprint, even though nuclear (or nucular as W. used to say), plants are FORCED to occupy far more land than they need. Security?

Hey Bill, hand me that 1/2 inch wrench.

Sorry Joe, I left it in the truck.

Well, go get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYZSiz35Bg


27 posted on 11/18/2021 10:27:18 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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18-wheel Hindenburgs, coming right up...


29 posted on 11/18/2021 10:29:35 AM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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federal subsidies is driving this

the ev manufacturers will be beholden to the FEDGOV

good bye free enterprise. hello fascism


31 posted on 11/18/2021 10:37:55 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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When will we see battery powered tractors, combines and large trucks needed to plant and harvest food crops? Where do you charge your tractor or combine in the middle of a field?


41 posted on 11/18/2021 5:53:50 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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