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Even Cummins Inc., A Diesel Engine Giant Pushes Batteries And Hydrogen At COP26 To Combat Climate Crisis
Forbes ^ | 11/13/2021 | Alan OhnsmanF

Posted on 11/18/2021 10:02:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

SpaceX is progressing toward using methane made from atmospheric CO2 + solar power.

Hydrogen, while interesting for power storage, still has significant efficiency & reliability issues and certainly has fuel infrastructure lacking. It provides good competition against batteries, but battery tech is evolving rapidly.


21 posted on 11/18/2021 10:19:41 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And does use Precious Water resources Like in Chile.


22 posted on 11/18/2021 10:20:00 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: SeekAndFind

My son has a battery operated Snapper push mower. It is powered by a Briggs and Stratton system. Makes perfect sense as a product.

Brandon says the next big thing is battery powered generators.


23 posted on 11/18/2021 10:21:06 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: D Rider

I should add that Hydrogen is probably the closest thing we have to a truly green battery. Cummins could make a mint promoting this.


24 posted on 11/18/2021 10:21:47 AM PST by D Rider ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

We will still need Diesel engines to run the generators needed to charge EVs.


25 posted on 11/18/2021 10:22:13 AM PST by Fresh Wind (You are not a horse, you are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it.)
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To: IamConservative
My son has a battery operated Snapper push mower. It is powered by a Briggs and Stratton system. Makes perfect sense as a product.

Yes indeed. If the battery runs down, you park the mower and enjoy a cold beer or two while the batteries recharge.

26 posted on 11/18/2021 10:26:21 AM PST by Fresh Wind (You are not a horse, you are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is sooooooo STUPID!

Ignoring all the NEGATIVES (pun intended) about battery power.

Like windmills. Oh, how wonderful. To get FREE energy “from the wind”.

EXCEPT, for all the problems associated them.

Like when the wind don’t blow! Never mind the birds!

BUT, wind power has the BIGGEST environmental footprint of all energy production.

Nuclear has the smallest footprint, even though nuclear (or nucular as W. used to say), plants are FORCED to occupy far more land than they need. Security?

Hey Bill, hand me that 1/2 inch wrench.

Sorry Joe, I left it in the truck.

Well, go get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYZSiz35Bg


27 posted on 11/18/2021 10:27:18 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: ctdonath2

Might work if you have say a copper mine at a mountaintop. There is a big one in Indonesia but not many others.


28 posted on 11/18/2021 10:28:45 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: SeekAndFind

18-wheel Hindenburgs, coming right up...


29 posted on 11/18/2021 10:29:35 AM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: Renfrew

That will only work as long as the energy supply is generated by fossil fuels. There is no solar and precious little wind at night.


30 posted on 11/18/2021 10:32:17 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: SeekAndFind

federal subsidies is driving this

the ev manufacturers will be beholden to the FEDGOV

good bye free enterprise. hello fascism


31 posted on 11/18/2021 10:37:55 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: cuban leaf
What climate crisis? I think they are making it up.

I'm planning to go to a football game this Saturday and yesterday the forecast was sunny and fairly warm. Today the forecast calls for rain and much cooler. And I'm supposed to believe these clowns know what the climate will be 10 years from now?

32 posted on 11/18/2021 10:41:54 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: D Rider

re: “Hydrogen is itself a battery.”

Mmmmmm ... Hydrogen is not a ‘battery’.

You confuse, conflate, batteries and fuels, for starters, it would seem.


33 posted on 11/18/2021 11:03:45 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: ctdonath2

they go uphill empty, fill up,
= = =

And at the top, the (no-longer-steam) shovels are running on batteries, too?

Kind of like pumping river water up hill to store it during excess power times of the day.


34 posted on 11/18/2021 11:05:39 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: hinckley buzzard

Nukes are the other big one. All our existing reactors power down over night. We can get 50% more power from existing plants for very little extra cost.


35 posted on 11/18/2021 11:28:48 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: _Jim

Ok be technical. Understand that the generation of hydrogen is a way to store energy for future use. I was trying to explain a concept.


36 posted on 11/18/2021 12:53:45 PM PST by D Rider ( )
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To: rarestia

They should be glad that they have the cleanest engine out there, other then Nuclear power. My late husband worked for Cummins in Columbus, IN, Atlanta, Jackson Miss, Memphis, & Montgomery, AL. He was Diesel engine teacher at Columbus & Atlanta, and shop manager at the others.


37 posted on 11/18/2021 1:01:01 PM PST by WVNan
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To: D Rider

re: “Understand that the generation of hydrogen is a way to store energy for future use.”

NONE of that will be material in a few years. This is going to be predominant in a few years instead:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BrilliantLightPower/

Here’s a test run of a development unit slated for customer trials:

https://youtu.be/yE5kM4NhaOI

ANYTHING and EVERYTHING else will be “left in the dust”.


38 posted on 11/18/2021 2:50:17 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: MNJohnnie

EVs are not the goal.

EVs will never adequately replace the combustion engine.

Their goal is to destroy the middleclass.

Eliminate fossil fuels to force the Deplorable rural middleclass to give up and move into high density cities to live a horrid Orwellian existence.


39 posted on 11/18/2021 3:21:47 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: _Jim

On topic, the article was about Cummins diesel and their support of Hydrogen power. I pointed out the why.


40 posted on 11/18/2021 5:30:32 PM PST by D Rider ( )
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