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IRS: Tax the poor at 10%
IRS ^ | November 6, 2019 | IRS

Posted on 11/16/2021 1:52:20 PM PST by ctdonath2

Marginal Rates: For tax year 2020, the top tax rate remains 37% for individual single taxpayers with incomes greater than $518,400 ($622,050 for married couples filing jointly). The other rates are:

The lowest rate is 10% for incomes of single individuals with incomes of $9,875 or less ($19,750 for married couples filing jointly).

(Excerpt) Read more at irs.gov ...


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For all the rhetoric both parties contend they exude about caring for the poor, interesting how anyone below the official poverty line ($12,880/yr) is nominally taxed at at least 10%.
1 posted on 11/16/2021 1:52:20 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2

But don’t forget EIC, TANF, EBT, Obamphones, free internet, Section 8 housing, heating assistance, etc in the equation.


2 posted on 11/16/2021 1:54:58 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: ctdonath2

I have a better idea.
Tax the money when it’s spent. Lets have the Fair Tax.


3 posted on 11/16/2021 1:55:48 PM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: ctdonath2

Plank #2 of the Communist Manifesto: A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

http://www.laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html


4 posted on 11/16/2021 1:56:12 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: ctdonath2

This chart is not gross income. This is taxable income. Low-income people also get the Earned Income Credit, so they get a bonus welfare check FROM the IRS.

Most people do not pay any income tax.


5 posted on 11/16/2021 1:56:55 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: ctdonath2

You’re looking in the wrong area.

“The standard deduction for married filing jointly rises to $24,800 for tax year 2020, up $400 from the prior year. For single taxpayers and married individuals filing separately, the standard deduction rises to $12,400 in for 2020”.

A single person with less than 12,400 annual income has ZERO taxable income. Taxable income only starts after the standard deduction.


6 posted on 11/16/2021 1:57:11 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: ctdonath2

God: I expect 10%.

Government: I’m more important than God.


7 posted on 11/16/2021 1:57:24 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ctdonath2

You are forgetting standard deductions.


8 posted on 11/16/2021 1:57:40 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: ctdonath2

Good!!! Among the many benefits people will be sick of paying $13K annually and get better jobs or a second job. I’ve worked two jobs for years.


9 posted on 11/16/2021 1:57:51 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ctdonath2

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/18/61percent-of-americans-paid-no-federal-income-taxes-in-2020-tax-policy-center-says.html


10 posted on 11/16/2021 2:00:32 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Current numbers: “More than 100 million U.S. households, or 61% of all taxpayers, paid no federal income taxes last year, according to a report from the Tax Policy Center.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/18/61percent-of-americans-paid-no-federal-income-taxes-in-2020-tax-policy-center-says.html

“it continues an ongoing trend of fewer households paying income tax due to long-running expansions in the Child Tax Credit (CTC) and Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC). TPC finds that in 2020, out of 176.2 million individuals and married couples who could file a tax return, about 144.5 million of them actually filed a tax return. Of the 144.5 million, 75.1 million filers paid no taxes after deductions and credits. Another 32 million households did not file a tax return. In total, about 107 million Americans (or 60.6 percent of households) paid no federal income taxes.

Using adjusted Internal Revenue Service (IRS) data to include households that do not file tax returns and fewer filing households paying income tax, we arrive at a preliminary estimate of 61.1 percent of households not paying income tax in 2020, which is close to TPC’s model estimate.”

https://taxfoundation.org/us-households-paying-no-income-tax/


11 posted on 11/16/2021 2:00:41 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: God luvs America

In this age of insane government deficits, taxes are just punitive for anyone. .Gov has no actual real need for tax revenue.

The Fed has shown it will grant trillions of wishes to .gov, so it makes no difference what the deficit is...


12 posted on 11/16/2021 2:01:41 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ctdonath2

I used to work at Union Gospel Mission on Skid Row..

What I learned about the “HOMELESS”:

the reason why they live in tents is to prove to the state they are without a physical address. The amount average circa 2021 is $3000 / month. IF they are accepted on section 8 housing, the monthly they receive is $900. And the VERY and ONLY thing they protect with their life is the BANK CARD. They can lose the tent, clothes and sh*t but the bank card is where they can access their money. Try proving to the bank you are the owner of that card when you roll in smelling like sh*t and a dirtyy luggage..


13 posted on 11/16/2021 2:05:58 PM PST by max americana (FIRED LEFTARD employees at our office every election since 2008 and enjoyed seeing them cry.)
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To: ctdonath2

Should be flat rate. It’d actually work to keep spending under control.


14 posted on 11/16/2021 2:11:02 PM PST by fruser1
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To: ctdonath2

I have the equivalent of 13 paychecks taken for taxes every year.

Yes, I’m paid well, but 13 FCKN paychecks!

And these mfers want even more?

FJB!


15 posted on 11/16/2021 2:20:41 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Little Ray

Amen.


16 posted on 11/16/2021 2:32:15 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: nascarnation

yup. in the end they end up with a negative tax rate.


17 posted on 11/16/2021 2:41:13 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said theintjey did story was false!)
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To: God luvs America
I’ve worked two jobs for years.

I'm closing in on 14 years with zero jobs. I could have gone back to work, but I think it would have been the waste of a perfectly good life.

18 posted on 11/16/2021 2:44:51 PM PST by Wissa (The fate of a laboratory rat is rarely enviable.)
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Knew the range of responses would be fun.

Yeah, should easily get that to zero - after finding a printed copy of 1040EZ, understanding the directions and terminology, doing the math, filling it out, and mailing it in. Those lacking the cognitive wherewithal to earn more than $PovertyLine may very well be hard pressed to do much as show they don’t owe 10% after all.

I just find it interesting that for all the rhetoric, the STARTING POINT on taxing the poor is 10%. Politicians just can’t say, in simplest terms under menial circumstances, “you don’t owe us anything.”


19 posted on 11/16/2021 2:49:56 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: ctdonath2
You've probably noticed (if you get near the "hood" in January) how so many storefronts become "Fast Tax" businesses.


20 posted on 11/16/2021 2:53:06 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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