Posted on 11/11/2021 10:54:20 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
We all know the Malone and the VARS data issues.
Let's see if the collective FREEPER mind can gaze into the crystal ball and figure out where this will likely go.
LostInBayport wrote: “They have you working on a holiday? I hope you are paid by the post, since most of your co-workers don’t post much here anymore. Have they contracts run out, or did they get vax reax?”
Many of them have come to realize how futile it is to convince a member of the anti-vaxxer conspiracy cult that they are wrong.
Nonsense. They are experimental medications for which the long term clinical safety trials have never been completed.
That means not a single person on planet earth can reasonably call them “safe”, because the data necessary to make that determination does not exist.
As for effective, the fact that they are talking about boosters this early speaks for itself, as does the fact that the “vaccines” do not prevent contraction or transmission of the virus.
Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals
Estimated Study Completion Date : May 2, 2023
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728
“The blood clots, stroke, Guillain-Barré, peripheral nerve pain, Bell’s Palsy are normal and tell you it’s working.”
“Getting covid and spreading it after the vax is normal. Just like with diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio.”
Monthly county deaths rates by basic cause such as stroke or myocardial infarction going back to January 2019 would be informative.
Governments need to step up and get the data out for analysis.
People can then make informed choices.
Yes, and that is a rather short trial period for a long-term safety trial. And nobody is even waiting for the accelerated pace of that trial before spouting off about how “safe” these are.
Some people like some of my relatives are ‘pro’ Dem and think this is Republicans way to deny them what Dems. Then some are just not into anything negative. They ignore the truth and as Brandon said, “we go by facts, not the truth”.
Boogieman wrote: “As for effective, the fact that they are talking about boosters this early speaks for itself, as does the fact that the “vaccines” do not prevent contraction or transmission of the virus.”
There are no vaccines that are 100% effective in preventing contraction or transmission of disease. Does that mean there are no effective vaccines?
There are no vaccines that are 100% free of adverse reactions. Does that mean there are no safe vaccines?
You should tell that to Eric Clapton, Gavin Newsome, Van Morrison, Franklin Graham, mRNA inventor Robert Malone MD, Switzerland and this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu_Bs9jZYPE
But I guess in your view the media, Fauci, Bill Gates, that Pitzer guy, and the Biden administration are all pretty credible.
Darksheare wrote: ““Getting covid and spreading it after the vax is normal.”
Breakthrough infections can happen with any vaccine. Does that meant there are no ‘real’ vaccines?
There are many safe vaccines.
However, there are no Covid vaccines that have a proven record of safety, because they have been rushed to market.
The final verdict on these vaccines will be many years away.
I will not go near any of them until we have many years of testing done.
“There are no vaccines that are 100% effective in preventing contraction or transmission of disease. Does that mean there are no effective vaccines?”
This is a silly argument. Safety and effectiveness are not either/or propositions, but you yourself are the one who declared blanketly that the vaccines were “safe & effective” with no qualification. So you’re just undermining yourself by arguing that we should be judging them qualitatively.
In order to actually judge their safety, we require the data on their long term safety, which DOES NOT EXIST, since those trials have NOT BEEN COMPLETED. Therefore no matter what standard is proper to judge their safety, they cannot be judged to meet it, since the data needed to make that judgement DOES NOT EXIST.
As to their effectiveness, no vaccines are 100% effective, but neither are condoms. Yet if one brand of condoms had this many “breakthrough cases”, nobody would purchase them as a contraceptive. The idea that a “vaccine” which does not produce lasting immunity, does not produce sterilizing immunity, and does not prevent transmission is somehow “effective” is simply ludicrous. If they were so effective, why would we need the state to force everyone to take them? We’ve never had to do that before for any other “effective” vaccine.
My girlfriend and I of 15 years are splitting. She is allowing me to live in the house with her until the end of the year. We are having interesting discussions about VAXXXX and politics which we never talked about before she presented her split proposal.
ON the vaxxxx, she quoted perfectly (almost) the CDC line including that the spike proteins will be gone in a few weeks! And like your experience, she would NOT look at nor discuss graphs like the Israeli death chart.

At the beginning of 2021, the Israeli's began vaxxx-End of July, began booster-both of these poison injections produced significant increases in the death rate.
On the way to breakfast this morning, she suggested that I quit looking at right wing web sites and start doing other things with my time. In other words, she thinks I should swallow the Kool Aide and go get vaxxed. "Why get upset about things you have no control over?"
She is very intelligent but when it comes to a DimWIT issue, she checks her brain at the door and accepts ALL of the explanations the Kommunists give.
I love her very much and I am in shock at some of her thoughts. I am going to have to walk away without any more discussions. That means letting her continue to get boosters which will destroy her immune system and will sentence her to a much earlier death, although it's probably true her fate was sealed when she decided to get the first jab.
I have explained to her that using supplements like quercetin and zinc which work independently of the immune system is a good idea for everyone (even if the vaxxxx actually worked). It just hurts deeply for me to see her murdered and she willingly gets into the boxcar and walks into the showers. At least when I hear of her death, I will probably be thousands of miles away and already free of the daily interactions we had which helped me be wildly in love with her.
I still have trouble believing that she went with me to get HCQ+Zn+antibiotic and that we both recovered identically once the treatment was started. She rathionalizes that HCQ didn't really work and she would have recovered anyway. She ignores anything and everything except what the lying gubermint scum tell her. After having natural immunity, she destroyed that with two injections and a booster a few weeks ago. She is entering the time zone where people are beginning to have significant medical problems.
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