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Top Doctor Says New CDC Study on Natural Immunity Is 'Highly Flawed' (CDC says VAX offers "higher protection) than natural immunity)
Townhall ^ | 11/2/2021 | Katie Pavlick

Posted on 11/09/2021 12:21:00 PM PST by Signalman

Given the CDC's record of issuing "science" based on political motives and leanings, the study was met with skepticism.

Further, a number of other studies have shown natural immunity is far superior to vaccination in terms of protection against infection. The Brownstone Institute has a solid analysis of the CDC study compared to a recent Israeli study, which shows natural immunity offers better protection.

Concerning the Covid recovered, there are two key public health issues. 1. Would the Covid recovered benefit from also being vaccinated? 2. Should there be vaccine passports and mandates that require them to be vaccinated in order to work and participate in society?

The CDC study did not address the first question, while the Israeli study showed a small but not statistically significant benefit in reducing symptomatic Covid disease. Future studies will hopefully shed more light on this issue.

Based on the solid evidence from the Israeli study, the Covid recovered have stronger and longer-lasting immunity against Covid disease than the vaccinated.

Many of the Covid recovered were exposed to the virus as essential workers during the height of the pandemic before vaccines were available. They kept the rest of society afloat, processing food, delivering goods, unloading ships, picking up garbage, policing the streets, maintaining the electricity network, putting out fires, and caring for the old and sick, to name a few.

They are now being fired and excluded despite having stronger immunity than the vaccinated work-from-home administrators that are firing them.

John Hopkins Doctor Marty MaKary is calling the CDC study "highly flawed."

(Makary) Excellent analysis of the highly flawed CDC study on natural immunity that flies in the face of science. It also contradicts 16 other studies.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cdc; cdcstudy; immunity; naturalimmunity; pavlich; vaccines
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To: Signalman

They are using Taxpayer funds to promote a FRAUD and are knowingly publishing deliberate False Statements and Science that is Directly causing the Deaths of Thousands of People.

RICO and ROPE!!


21 posted on 11/09/2021 12:49:06 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: qwerty1234

I feel like you and fortunately I’m in good health so I’m just waiting to catch it since I figure we all will anyway.

I also think people should be left alone about the vaccination decision, either way they go. I’m 20 months into this mess with no shots and so far no virus. Next door guy got it, so it’s close. He’s fine though, back at work.


22 posted on 11/09/2021 12:49:30 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (“There are no rules here – we're trying to accomplish something.” -Thomas A. Edison )
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To: qwerty1234
Neither vax nor natural immunity is worth a damn after 6 months.

Not sure if true for everyone. I got the Jannsen in March and now 8 months later still have the fatigue side effect that popped up just after the shot so something is still active. Booster? No thanks.

23 posted on 11/09/2021 12:52:27 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: Owen

-— Neither vax nor natural immunity is worth a damn after 6 months. -—

This is correct for the “vaccine” but incorrect for natural immunity. It probably lasts a lifetime, just like with measles or chickenpox. You get it once, you do not get it again.

Sars-Cov1 immunity has been shown to last at least 20 years and provides some immunity to Sars-Cov2.

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563


24 posted on 11/09/2021 12:52:48 PM PST by Blennos ( )
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To: Signalman

Ping


25 posted on 11/09/2021 12:54:55 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Signalman

Ping


26 posted on 11/09/2021 12:54:56 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: qwerty1234; Owen

“>>Neither vax nor natural immunity is worth a damn after 6 months.”

Was watching a Dr. Michael Yeadon video yesterday and he said the virus is a SARS virus and that people that had SARS many years ago still had antibodies that recognized and reacted against the Rona.

Said that SARS is 20% different in makeup but the antibodies still recognized the Rona.

Also said the variants are .3% different from the original Rona and anyone telling you you need a booster because of the variants is lying since variants aren’t different enough to be missed by the shots. You “need” a booster because the shots don’t last long, and neither will the boosters.


27 posted on 11/09/2021 12:56:13 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (“There are no rules here – we're trying to accomplish something.” -Thomas A. Edison )
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To: loucon

Yea. A lot of them died before they could get it.

I fully agree with Qwery1235 above.


28 posted on 11/09/2021 12:57:03 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Signalman

yes all of that and a 100 years of medical experience with infectious disease, but even more damning is that it contradicts God, Himself. He created natural immunity and you can be sure it’s far better protection (when not compromised) than the best protection man can offer.


29 posted on 11/09/2021 1:00:22 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Owen

you couldn’t be more wrong.


30 posted on 11/09/2021 1:02:05 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Signalman

The more they LIE the less confidence the public has in ANYTHING they say!! Not that there is one shred of trust left to date in one word they spew today!! Think about how much money tax payers pay the hundreds of thousands that work for government YET there is not ONE SINGLE department we have ANY faith left in!! The one thing Trump did for ALL of us was to shed a bright light on the DEEP STATE and just how DEEP and expansive it is!! The ONLY way to fix this is to divide and conquer, EVERY department needs to be transferred across the country to different states they don’t want to transfer to bad one way to get rid of HALF of the BEAST!!


31 posted on 11/09/2021 1:05:58 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Owen
Owen wrote:

Oh for God’s sake, stop.

Neither vax nor natural immunity is worth a damn after 6 months.

Actually immunity can last many, many years. Dr Yeadon described a researcher who retested people originally infected with SARS1 in 2003 with SARS1 again in 2021. Their immunity held 17 years and they did not become ill.

The researcher then tested those same people with SARS2 Covid. They were immune because there is only 22% difference in the genome between the two viruses. Many of us were already immune to COvid because we'd encountered a similar coronavirus and devloped immunity prior to Covid.

The CDC 'confused matters' (i.e., manipulated the public) by making anti-body tests seem like something they are not. Antibody tests only reveal if your immune system has been recently activated/exposed in the last few months.  The CDC intentionally ignored the other type of immunity we have, the one with the 'long memory'.

32 posted on 11/09/2021 1:07:09 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: qwerty1234

“I am generally pro-vax “

Pro polio, measles, mumps, smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), and tetanus vaccines.

Had them all!

Mrna NO! NOT a vaccine. DEADLY to some, DEVISTATING to others. WORTHLESS to the rest.

Annual flu vaccines just as WORTHLESS for most, DEVISTATING to others.

NO ONE should get the COVID vaxxines. REGARDLESS of comorbidity or other factors.

THERE IS ZERO NEED for these COVID vaxxines other than depopulation of the planet.

Many therapeutics, treatments, repurposed drugs, vitamins, etc. can treat, CURE and PREVENT COVID.

More are being discovered every day.

The pandemic would be OVER if not for the vaxxines. I read where a famous doctor said the COVID vaxxines ARE the Delta variant. The pandemic was OVER! NO ONE is getting the original COVID anymore. It is all the Delta Variant (CAUSED by the vaxxines).

This is genocide. WAKE UP!


33 posted on 11/09/2021 1:10:01 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: ransomnote

SARS-COV-1 immunity is still good after 21 years.


34 posted on 11/09/2021 1:11:51 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Signalman

BULLSHIT!


35 posted on 11/09/2021 1:12:12 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: dadfly; Owen

“you couldn’t be more wrong.”

Couldn’t be more frightened is more like it.


36 posted on 11/09/2021 1:13:47 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (“There are no rules here – we're trying to accomplish something.” -Thomas A. Edison )
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To: loucon

Yes some people have had adverse reactions to natural immunity. They died acquiring it.


37 posted on 11/09/2021 1:18:32 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

Then they didn’t have natural immunity, they had acquired immunity.


38 posted on 11/09/2021 1:20:31 PM PST by loucon (Quarantine by choice is freedom. Quarantine by mandate is ... well you know ... that thing ... )
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To: loucon
Has anyone ever had an adverse reaction to natural immunity?

There you go making sense. Don't you believe the CDC? They use SCIENCE!TM

39 posted on 11/09/2021 1:22:17 PM PST by Gideon7
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To: loucon

Kind of like citizenship.


40 posted on 11/09/2021 1:23:07 PM PST by loucon (Quarantine by choice is freedom. Quarantine by mandate is ... well you know ... that thing ... )
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