Posted on 11/03/2021 11:53:03 AM PDT by ml/nj
I went to my usual polling place yesterday and was given a REAL paper Ballot. I went to a table and marked it. Then I fed it into a machine which tallied it and saved the original ballot someplace within.
I have long been suspicious of all voting machines. (I know if I had programmed any of them, Democrats would have seldom won anything.) But this new way of voting virtually eliminates the possibility of fraud. It is true that the tally machine could intentionally flip random R votes, or not count them. But if even only five percent of these machines were audited afterward to see that the reported tally matched the ballots it saved, this would ensure an honest count, or so it seems to me.
Maybe this is why Ciattarelli did as well as he seems to have done?
ML/NJ
I’m curious how else people are voting? Do they actually use touchscreens for voting? I’ve only even known paper ballots, and they’re fed into a machine to be tallied.
I signed in on a touch ipad as opposed to the old dusty books. Then I walked into the usual machine I’ve used since I was able to vote, marked my choices and pressed “cast ballot”.
Same as it ever was except the last POTUS election.
These counting machines are way too complicated. Remember those old scan-tron machines they used to use in schools? Mostly analog. They just counted things, or scored a test. Simple. Hard to cheat them. The more hardware, the more coding, the more complications, the more likely fraud can be introduced.
This is how we have been voting in Michigan for decades. Optically Scanned ballots.
However, OSBs didn't stop tens of thousands if illegitimate ballots from being accepted by Wayne County (Detroit) and counted in 2020.
The problem isn't software flipping votes like Lin Wood would have you believe. It is dishonest, or just biased, county clerks in highly populated Democrat counties accepting anything with a chicken scratch as a legitimate vote and counting it before the signature can be challenged by a Poll Watcher.
I worked as an election clerk for a ward near Bangor, Maine.
I handed out the paper ballots after it was determined that they were eligible to vote. The ballots were fed into the machine and then went into a box at the bottom of the machine.
After the polls closed we check the total number of ballots given out with those ballots in the box and any ballots that have been spoiled. Spoiled ballots occur when someone for two candidates for one position. The total ballots equal the ballots in the box plus the spoiled ballots which are kept in a separate box.
Same for me in Essex County. It was all black Sharpies to color in your choice on large paper ballots that you later fed into this big box that pulled them in the way it would pull a cash deposit into an ATM.
I’ll tell you my story. Wife and I went in a little before 5 pm. No lines. Individually we gave our names, signed a little screen with a rubbery stylus and then it came up and compared to previous signature. Not a bad match, but I could see the inherent problems this would cause.
Here’s the kicker....in our area (there were about 3 other areas in this municipal building), they had two of these small LCD consoles on the desks where the ladies were helping us out individually. Apparently, the console being used by my ‘helper’ was having some issues and she was getting frustrated when she blurted out (right in front of all of us, mind you) - “What’s the dang password to this thing?”. There were maybe 10-15 regular old voter folks in the room, and maybe 3-4 ‘officials’.
This young kid, I’d say maybe 25 tops, shoots back to her “It’s _______”. He was the guy that sits by the curtained booth and resets the machine for the next voter. The booth was merely a 30x36 panel where you would press each of your choices and a little LED would back-light your selection. When you had made all of your choices, you would press a VOTE button.
I was absolutely flabbergasted that he just said the system password right in front of us all. I live in Somerset County. The password that he clearly blurted out was astoundingly, astonishing simple. I couldn’t believe it.....
I have to write someone in power about this.
Paper ballot in VA
I fill in the little circles with a felt tip pen then feed the paper ballot into a computerized machine until it tells me my vote has been counted
NJ voter. Atlantic County which went red. They looked up my name on a computer. Guessing they checked to see if I already voted. Signed a paper ballot that I handed over to girl as I went to machine. Also signed my name to a computer screen.
The way to cheat is to make extra ballots in advance and then find nefarious ways to feed them into the machine
ANYthing can be done in the software, including displaying the correct vote while tallying it as the opposite side.
ONLY way to prevent this is to have ALL the software and firmware as open source. Unfortunately, Dominion and companies like it refuse to open source their software and firmware.
Yesterday, because I am not used to writing on an ipad, I messed up my signature, made a typo, in fact, didn't finish signing. I wanted a do-over and wasn't allowed. Lady said the computer accepted my signature!!! How could it? The way I signed looked NOTHING like my signature on file.
This concerns me because anyone can go and vote using my name, sign however they want and it will go through.
We don't have to show ID, nor do we receive receipts that we voted.
You signed twice?
In Upstate NY we only signed once on that ipad. They only asked for physical address. Nothing else. I don’t know how they do it in the big cities.
Always signed twice. This was first time I signed on computer used to be in a big book. Second time is on the ticket I received that goes to person by voting screen. They thread it onto a string attached to booth.
It does no such thing. How do you know that the machine tallied the vote internally the same way it printed out on your proof sheet? You don't. How do you know that the machine reported the correct tally on up the food chain? You don't.
That wouldn’t be a guarantee that what was available for inspection is actually running on the machines.
Wouldn't happen. Presumably the ballots are time-stamped when they go though the scanning machine, so they have to be in sequence, not too closely spaced in time, and processed only while the polls are open. Where I voted, even though I didn't have to wait, it seemed to me that an opportunity to feed in extra ballots didn't exist.
ML/NJ
How do I know? I don't.
But as I said, random checking of machine tallies and their captured ballots would expose the initial fraud.
Presumably, each time the vote is aggregated to a higher level, there is a spreadsheet which shows the components of the new total and party workers should be able to randomly verify this too.
ML/NJ
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