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Boris Johnson: When the Roman Empire fell, it was largely as a result of uncontrolled immigration
twitter / channel 4 news ^ | Nov 1 | Boris Johnson

Posted on 11/01/2021 4:57:38 AM PDT by RandFan

Boris:

“When the Roman Empire fell, it was largely as a result of uncontrolled immigration. The empire could no longer control its borders, people came in…and Europe went into a dark ages that lasted a very long time. The point is that it can happen again”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: andywarholwig; borders; borisjohnson; europeanunion; godsgravesglyphs; immigration; invasion; romanempire; twitter; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 11/01/2021 4:57:38 AM PDT by RandFan
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2 posted on 11/01/2021 4:59:53 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: RandFan

This country is doomed, and the Dems are seeing to it that there is no pulling back.

Poor, stupid, indoctrinated Americans have no idea what’s coming.


3 posted on 11/01/2021 5:00:45 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
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No S * it!


4 posted on 11/01/2021 5:00:47 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: RandFan

I thought it was excessive chariot horse flatulence...


5 posted on 11/01/2021 5:01:48 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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I'm sure there were also high level Roman officials who talked and talked and talked about the threat posed by unbridled immigration, but did nothing about it.

Some of them may have even orated.

6 posted on 11/01/2021 5:02:53 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: RandFan
Johnson knows better.

Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome

7 posted on 11/01/2021 5:03:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Illegal immigrants aren’t responsible for this, are they, Johnson...

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/facebooks-global-head-of-safety-hasnt-fully-read-uks-online-safety-bill/


8 posted on 11/01/2021 5:04:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: RandFan

His point is undeniable.

When the city finally fell to a Germanic horde, Gibbon wrote that the gate was opened by someone who had more sympathy with the forces outside, than with the people inside.

Whether that detail is accurate, the Western Empire was being overrun by migrant forces for many decades.

There is no question the Empire fell to this gradual takeover, and not to its foreign enemies to the East and South.


9 posted on 11/01/2021 5:07:32 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: brownsfan
Does the rest of the "free" world realize that the US is a paper tiger and no longer has the domestic industry to back up it's military complex and international commitments?

When the EU and the Pac Rim States realize they are really on their own what happens then?

10 posted on 11/01/2021 5:08:32 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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“When the EU and the Pac Rim States realize they are really on their own what happens then?”

True to their liberal roots, they will remain oblivious until it’s far too late.


11 posted on 11/01/2021 5:16:40 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
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The fall of the Roman Empire closely aligns with the rise of the Roman Catholic Church.

Those turds along with Constantine wanted one universal faith... Happy now? Morons.


12 posted on 11/01/2021 5:27:30 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught (Sounds like a conspiracy theory? Wait 6 months and it will be truth.)
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> Poor, stupid, indoctrinated Americans have no idea what’s coming. <

Awhile back I read an article about the fall of the Roman Empire. The author listed all the usual reasons. But then he added one of his own.

The Roman Empire fell because the Romans couldn’t conceive of it falling. The Empire was all-powerful, and evidently eternal. Rome simply cannot fall! So there was no need to take any corrective action.

Too many Americans have that exact same mindset today.


13 posted on 11/01/2021 5:33:12 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Well, yes and no. Rome fell to conquering barbarian armies that they no longer had the ability to resist. Rome still had a lot of citizens, but no one was interested in fighting.

While there are no conquering armies (yet), we are being slowly boiled like a frog. And, yes, lots of people inside the gates are sympathetic to those outside. They think letting them all in, with zero vetting, will make their lives better. It won’t.

The fact that we are offering freebees also serves as a magnet. Even Rome wasn’t dumb enough to do that.


14 posted on 11/01/2021 5:37:25 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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One difference is the Romans didn;t invite the invaders. The west is inviting mass immigration.

The intention is to make the whole world, third world. The leaders make out regardless of the quality of life for the serfs.


15 posted on 11/01/2021 5:38:12 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Leaning Right

Too many Americans have that exact same mindset today.


Ironically, the same technology that makes us powerful is also making us complacent, naive & stupid. In many ways, technology is great, but I think it can also lead to our undoing. It helps spread weird and impractical ideas that too many people seem to embrace.


16 posted on 11/01/2021 5:43:22 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Leaning Right

“Too many Americans have that exact same mindset today.”

Right, it can’t happen here.


17 posted on 11/01/2021 5:44:17 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
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Uncontrolled “immigration” isn’t “immigration”. It’s INVASION.
I understand what Johnson was trying to say and he is correct about his situation in Britain.
Rome “fell” for a number of reasons and the situations were not entirely analogous.
After a series of disastrous wars that lead to the fall of the Roman Republic and the rise of the princepate and empire, Augustus exempted Italians from mandatory service in the legions. Over time, this led to loss of any martial spirit.
You can’t defend your borders without a military so from that point on, troops were mainly recruited from the provinces. A series of Civil Wars in the Second Century, depleted the officer class and ranks of the military so they began recruiting barbarians from across the border as individuals and in groups. Eventually the military establishment was no longer Roman in any real sense.
Here is where the difference between the Roman situation and Britain exists.The barbarians filled a vacuum in the system even though they ultimately filled it to the detriment of the state. The Barbarians for the most part, admired Roman Civilization and wanted to be a part of it, not destroy it. Although Roman and Barbarian society and culture were different, they still had SOME elements of similarity. They were essentially both Indo-European.
In the case of Britain, “immugration” serves no real use.
The people coming in have, for the most part, no real cultural connection to Britain and no desire to absorb British culture or any admiration for it. They believe their culture is superior and are determined to impose it. They only come, again, for the most part, to take advantage of social programs absent in their own countries.


18 posted on 11/01/2021 5:49:20 AM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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Uncontrolled “immigration” isn’t “immigration”. It’s INVASION.

It's theft of services paid for by taxpayers.

19 posted on 11/01/2021 5:50:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Cboldt

The intention is to make the whole world, third world.


There is a lot of truth in that. The Elites don’t want a bourgeoise middle class. They want a very large poor class, a working lower class, a technocratic class, and an elite class. Why? Because they see the poor and working classes as much easier to control. And “poor” is relative. They won’t be starving, but they will be slaves who will be held in check by welfare benefits or (in the case of the working class) debt. And they easily pacified by nearly free entertainment and stimulants. The Elites will have their gated communities & remote (unreachable) enclaves that will be removed from it all.

Ultimately, the kind of world they want is a lot closer to the dystopias of 1984 or Brave, New World than most people realize.


20 posted on 11/01/2021 5:50:15 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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