[semimojo]

I believe the data shows unequivocally that the mRNA COVID “vaccines” are clearly and unequivocally more lethal, and have cause more debilitation, than all the other vaccines since 1990 added together.

I don't think you can conclude that from the VAERS data because VAERS doesn't attribute cause of death. That's not a half truth, it's a fact.

I acknowledge the number of reported adverse events, including deaths, may exceed any previous vaccine but I think the reason may be simple - we've never had a mass vaccination with a new vaccine and all of the attendant publicity. I think events are much more likely to be reported with the Covid vaccines than the other widely administered ones.

I think someone who has heart issues two weeks after a flu vaccination is much less likely to report it to VAERS than if they had the same event two weeks following a Covid shot.

The flu shot has been so common for so long that people are much less likely to consider it as a possible cause when something happens to them.

The same is true for tetnus, MMR, TDAP, etc.

The CDC and FDA also review the VAERS events and conduct additional safety monitoring.

"Vaccine safety experts review all reports of serious adverse events submitted to VAERS. A serious adverse event after vaccination is something that causes

Permanent disability Hospitalization or an extended hospital stay (if vaccinated while in the hospital) Life-threatening illness Birth defects (congenital anomalies) Death When VAERS staff members follow-up on a report of a serious adverse event, they ask for the patient’s medical records related to the event to learn more about what happened.

VAERS reports are available to the public, but to protect privacy and confidentiality they do not include information that could identify the person."

Based on these reviews they haven't identified widespread harm from the vaccinations.

"The FDA and CDC have multiple systems in place in addition to VAERS to monitor vaccine safety. “A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines,” the FDA told Reuters.

There is, however, a plausible causal relationship between Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 vaccine, as the CDC documents (here), and blood clots with low platelets — a rare and serious adverse event that has caused three deaths (here).

A CDC spokesperson told Reuters in an email: “To date, CDC has not detected any unusual or unexpected patterns for deaths following immunization that would indicate that COVID vaccines are causing or contributing to deaths, outside of the 3 confirmed deaths following the Janssen vaccine.”"

This is why I asked if you thought the CDC was lying. They've examined the incidents and concluded that the vaccines aren't causing deaths.

Now you may say you do think they're lying, which implies a massive conspiracy, but I don't see how you can deny the facts about what they say or what VAERS represents.

I believe you are deliberately ignoring the facts, cherry picking snippets of data, and misrepresenting CDC disclaimers to serve your masters.

I believe you are a dishonest craven liar and are serving your ultimate boss, the Prince of Lies himself.

Yet you can't see your way clear to identify one of those lies or misrepresentations.

Perhaps I missed something. Prove me wrong.

You're the one accusing me of lying. I believe the burden is on you.

[Tymesup]

I agree with you that it’s likely that Covid vaccinations may be more likely to be reported because they are new.

On the other hand, some may be less likely to report because they have convinced themselves the vaccines are good and can’t be responsible for the adverse effects. Some may think the vaccines are good for society, so they won’t report. Some may feel threatened not to report.

There is speculation that the CDC is slow walking some reporting. There is also speculation that some reporting that is being removed.

I can’t figure out from here whether Covid adverse effects are being under or over reported, relative to other vaccines. Can you?

A while back, I estimated the number of doses of other vaccines to come up with a rate of adverse effects. The Covid vaccines were at least 6 times as likely, per dose, to have an adverse effect reported. There were also significantly different rates for the different Covid vaccines. Correlation may not mean causation, but the evidence is compelling.