Death Factor = ratio of Vaccinated deaths per 100k against Unvaccinated deaths per 100kPosted on 10/27/2021 2:04:24 PM PDT by ransomnote
Raw Covid-19 Mortality and All Cause Mortality Data from the UK Office of National Statistics (ONS) has revealed that double vaccinated people were six times more likely to die of All Causes than unvaccinated people from the end of April to the beginning of July 2021.
This is the first time the government has published data which traps the scale of the lethal side effects of the Covid-19 injections.
By a concerned reader
The data can be downloaded from the ONS in Excel format here.
Death Factor = ratio of Vaccinated deaths per 100k against Unvaccinated deaths per 100kIn table 4 and 5 of the report, the ONS calculated the death rates per 100k using the complicated age standardised mortality rate formula explained in their report.
This is supposed to remove age as a confounding factor in the table above, but they do not supply the raw data by age band for the age bands they use in their formula. So one cannot check vital aspects of the formula.
Therefore a decision was made to just to use the raw data published above and calculate the death rates per 100k by dividing the death numbers by the population and multiplying by 100,000. We used excel for the calculation since the ONS supplies all the data in excel format.
For the avoidance of doubt –
The Unvaccinated Covid Deaths per 100k in Column11 = 100,000 x Column3/Column6
The Unvaccinated All Cause Deaths per 100k in Column14 = 100,000 x Column5/Column6
The Vaccinated Covid Deaths per 100k in Column 12 = 100,000 x Column7/Column10
The Vaccinated All Cause Deaths per 100k in Column 15 = 100,000 x Column9/Column10
The Vaccine Efficiency as measured by Covid-19 deaths is Column13 = (Column11 – Column12)/the larger of the two columns as a %
The Vaccine Efficiency as measured by all cause deaths is Column16 = (Column14 – Column15)/the larger of the two columns as a %
The Death Factor is simply the ratio of the Vaccinated all cause death rate per 100k to the Unvaccinated
The figures are astonishingly revealing. Using the normalised absolute ratio of Covid deaths between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated in column 13 we see clearly that the vaccines were initially 97% effective against the alleged original Covid-19 variant as claimed by Pfizer and Moderna.
But by April their effectiveness in preventing Covid deaths had all but vanished from the raw data, being hidden to some extent by the age differential between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. Thereafter, thankfully, the death numbers (from Covid itself) have been pretty low both for the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. So all we see is noise around the zero.
There is perhaps a slight discernable advantage to the vaccines as the age differential runs out towards July. However nothing spectacular is seen there.
But when we look at all cause mortality we at last get some idea of the damage done by the gene therapy aspect of these injections.
The overall death rates among the double vaccinated per 100k were around 6 x higher than in the unvaccinated from the end of April until the start of July 2021. These death rates include all the deaths caused by side effects which have not necessarily been clinically attributed to the vaccines.
This is the first data published that manages to capture that figure. During the start of that period it is true that double vaccinated people were on average a lot older than unvaccinated people. So the death rates would be expected to be higher in the vaccinated group.
But all adults in the UK over 18 were called for their first shot by June 18th, at which time the recommended period between shots had been reduced to 8 weeks. So all adults had been called for a 2nd shot by August 13th. So by the end of September the age differential between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated would have been negligible.
But if we extrapolate the non age adjusted death factor figures forward by 12 weeks to September 24th (week 38), they will plainly still be very much in the red and certainly be above 3.
By week 26, 71% of the total population was double vaccinated. So most of the job was done, given that 8-9% are never going to be vaccinated So this data drives a coach and horses through the concept that vaccines save lives. They do not. Quite the reverse in fact. They make people more likely to be infected with delta and more likely to die.
A further analysis of this data has been performed by Profs Norman Fenton and Martin Neil and can be viewed here.
Under universal vaccine protocols [pre-2020], all adverse events were presumed vaxx-caused until proven otherwise. That is why it took years to produce & test a new, safe vax - bc a new vax commonly causes unforeseen and unforeseeable complications, significant adverse consequences often are not immediate, and in the absence of alternate explanations, the existence of adverse events BY THEMSELVES doom the proposed vax.
All of it has been flushed down the toilet since Covid. This outcome not scientifically unexpected, it is unfortunately predicable [and predicted over and over but censored] but ignored.
“The vaccine does not suppress the natural immune system.”
We don’t know that... I wish we did.
Cancer and other things seem to be on the uptake, which would suggest a problem.
That data is very hard to decipher.
“Here’s one of the articles on the CDC claim I mentioned, that doesn’t differentiate for age, either”
You are wrong about that. The CDC referenced study does account for age, as well as other factors.
The CNN report of the study did not mention it, but they had a link to the CDC citation of the study, which states: “After standardizing mortality rates by age and sex, this study found that COVID-19 vaccine recipients had lower non–COVID-19 mortality than did unvaccinated persons.”
Are you going to change you position?
“Unrelated question to this thread you said earlier that you’re against the mandates. Are you against coercion to take the injections?”
Yes, absolutely.
I do think that employers should have a (not unlimited) right to require vaccination as a condition of employment, but no one should be forced to take the vaccine against their will, not even prisoners.
“Every article and argument we post against vaccines is directed against the mandates.”
Lying and misleading about the vaccines is different from arguing against mandates - it is just lying and misleading.
You may think that that the ends justifies the means, that anything goes in your holy jihad, but it is throwing truth and objectivity to the wind, to participate in spreading deliberate disinformation, like theexpose.uk does.
Yes, exactly why I referenced that study, since it directly contradicts your claim in post #10 of this thread where you unequivically stated that unvaccinated people SHOULD die less than the vaccinated, simply because the vaccinated are typically older, and are more prone to die.
So either the CDC study was wrong that unvaccinated die more frequently, or you were wrong in post #10 where you supported this study that vaccinated die more frequently.
Based on the hard evidence presented in this study, it appears you were right in post #10, and the CDC is again playing with numbers.
The author of this article, “a concerned reader” is a welder in England, Jonathan Allen-Walker of Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire.
https://www.logically.ai/articles/actors-behind-uk-misinformation-site-the-daily-expose
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They put forth official data and their analysis. ANy of us can agree with their analysis or not. And you fell for a fake checker site that claims it’s FAKE NEWS?
TheExpose.uk is over the target and tacking flack, from MSM ‘fact checkers’ and apparently some freepers, too.
So here’s the link to the actual CDC study.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm?s_cid=mm7043e2_w#T1_down
Assuming their data is accurate, let’s look at Table 1, for the gross numbers, and let’s look at the 3 rows for ages 65-74, 75-84, and 85+.
The numbers for the first three columns of all three rows are all roughly the same, with the first column being for Pfizer, the second for Moderna, and the third for Unvaccinated.
For example, in the 75-84 category, they are fairly evenly split at 219,888, 216,968, 233,870. The same basic ratio holds true for the other rows for ages 65+.
So, this would confirm your claim that there are more vaccinated than unvaccinated in the older generations, so we’ll stipulate your claim on that as correct (which I never disputed).
Now, let’s move on to Table 2, for accumulated deaths. In this table, there are more rows for the vaccinated, to account for those that may have only received one injection, which will have to be added to the column for those that received two.
Again looking at the 75-84 row first, we see the death for Pfizer at 1,929 (338 + 1,591), Moderna at 1,801 (376 + 1,425), and the Unvaccinated at 1,861.
So, an almost identical rate of death for the vaccinated, verses the unvaccinated. This ratio holds true for the other two rows for ages 65 and older as well.
This is using their own data. NO appreciable reduction in death, for the vaccinated verses the unvaccinated, in the exact group you mentioned, 65+.
“The antigen from Covid is Plasmodium Yoelii IE:parasite.”
Curious about the plasmodium idea. I’ve only ever seen that in your posts, is there a source for that?
Same question for the following sentence “the nineteen different antigens for the injections are all bacteria.”
Are you saying that the shots contain bacteria? Or that the mRNA codes for different bacterial, not viral proteins?
I’ve looked, and don’t find any information about either of those claims anywhere else.
“I referenced that study, since it directly contradicts your claim in post #10 of this thread where you unequivically stated that unvaccinated people SHOULD die less than the vaccinated”
Once again, you are simply factually wrong.
What I said in post 10 is “Everybody knows that the oldest and sickest were vaccinated first, and they die of all causes much, much more than the general population.”
“They” refers to the oldest and sickest. They are expected to die at a higher rate than younger and healthier people.
The study that you linked (which the CDC cited) specifically did adjust for age. The misleading article from the Expose website that this thread is about, specifically avoided adjusting for age (and also incorporated other consciously misleading approaches, like cherry picking only a specific timeline, tailored to show a the worst possible snapshot, and blowing a lot of smoke to give an impression that they painstakingly adjusted for age, when they specifically did not).
“In other words the antigens from the injections are in a different family of viral proteins then covid. The antigen from Covid is Plasmodium Yoelii IE:parasite. the nineteen different antigens for the injections are all bacteria.”
That is not at all true.
It also seems to confuse viruses and bacteria (and protozoa).
And I just did a thorough examination of the CDC data in post #52, wherein it is abundantly clear that being vaccinated didn't reduce the overall likelihood of death in three separate 65+ categories.
“Do you think the employer has a right to insist that an employee must get an experimental injection?”
I don’t think they have a right to insist that anyone take any injection - only to choose whether or not they will employ them.
However, you raise the point the point of experimental injections. That is one of the (many) grounds where courts and legislatures might reasonably limit employer rights to deny employment to someone, based on taking a vaccine.
I think that generally, employers should be free to determine the qualifications they want, for who they hire - but it is not absolutely unlimited. Employee rights/interests have to be considered, for justice to be thorough. For instance, the Government already legally prohibits employment discrimination based on race, gender, et cetera. Courts might rule that employers were using a vaccine mandate to fire someone nearing retirement, as a ruse to cheat them out of their retirement benefits, or some other ulterior motive.
As a practical matter, I think that employers will need a good reason why a specific job requires a vaccine, rather than just wanting everyone to have it, after these issues finally work their way through the courts.
Might be that the people who are refusing to get the shot are just stubborn and when death shows up they tell him what he can do with himself.
My aunt was suppose to have died by last Christmas.
She is looking forward to this one because by gum she is not going to go until the youngest is through collage and out on his own.
I would not bet against it.
“it is abundantly clear that being vaccinated didn’t reduce the overall likelihood of death in three separate 65+ categories.”
It is also abundantly clear that vaccination did not increase mortality (much less sixfold) - and that the Expose article of this thread, that makes this outlandish claim, is total B.S.
It is not my argument that vaccination reduces all cause mortality (not counting COVID deaths). That is the article that you linked.
My argument is that this Expose article (and Expose articles in general) are deliberate misinformation/disinformation.
I will agree with you that it is possible that the Expose article is incorrect, in its published ratios, as the ages of the participants is not provided, but let’s be clear, that would be an assumption, as we do not have the age information deliniated.
However they do make an at least reasonable argument, that near the end of the study, once the levels of vaccinations were consistent across age groups, their stated ratio remained somewhat consistent. So, it’s indeterminate, with arguments on both sides.
What is not so indeterminate is what I posted in #52, that even in the CDC data, for the three over 65 age categories, there was no appreciable, if any, reduction in death between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. THAT should be the main takeaway, from that study, in my opinion, considering the ridiculous amount of turmoil and loss of freedom these vaccines and their mandates are perpetrating on the USA.
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