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To: ransomnote
. The CDC just released an analysis that after you get vaccinated, your all-cause mortality drops by 72% if you are age 18-44. Since 33% of deaths in that age group are from accidents, that means that it drives death from ALL diseases to ZERO and it ALSO reduces chance of dying in an accident.

Uhm. No. They did not say that.

They did not say that a person's risk of mortality "drops" "after you get vaccinated".

They said that vaccinated people are dying at a lower rate than unvaccinated.

Confusing those two things would be like saying "Your risk of heart disease drops by 50% after you move to Japan" because people living in Japan have lower rates of heart disease.

Does the underlying data make sense? Maybe it does maybe it doesn't. But either way this post is just another deliberate misinterpretation clickbait. Or it is planted to make people with legitimate concerns about the so-called vaccination look foolish and susceptible to real fact checking.

55 posted on 10/25/2021 10:33:47 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: edwinland
But either way this post is just another deliberate misinterpretation clickbait.

Vaccine boy, you are humble and lovable.

72 posted on 10/25/2021 10:48:00 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: edwinland
Does the underlying data make sense? 

I can answer that. NO. The CDC's data is so fake if laughable, and so are you.

Maybe it does maybe it doesn't.

That's the best you can do? Damning information posted about CDC and you're trying to make it sound like facts don't matter? Maybe? Or maybe not?

81 posted on 10/25/2021 10:57:03 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: edwinland

I believe the CDC is certainly implying mortality “drops” when you get the jab when they say “lower rates of mortality” without explaining the cause (because they don’t know the cause). They believe the study confirms the safety profile of the jab.

The cohort left out of the study (since this is humans and not beagles) are those from the vaccinated population who unknowingly got a placebo instead. IOW their life circumstances and behavior match the vaccinated group.

The mortality could be better, could be worse. It’s unknown based on this study.

If the mRNA cures accidents and other poor life choices or circumstances, the CDC should own it and promote it on that basis.

Also, what about long term side effects since the jab has been out < 1 year and vaccines are typically tested > 5 years before approval?

Also, what if mass vaccination of healthy people actually favors covid variants that prolong the pandemic and kill more people?


100 posted on 10/25/2021 11:32:14 AM PDT by SiGeek
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To: edwinland
They said that vaccinated people are dying at a lower rate than unvaccinated.

You got that right, but missed the important part where the lower rate excludes COVID-19. The title of the CDC table says:

"Number of deaths and standardized mortality rate (deaths per 100 person-years) not associated with COVID-19..."

If the data is correct, then it turns out that being vaccinated dramatically reduces the death rate for people in the age group of 18-44 from everything else but COVID-19, along with whatever effect the vaccines have on reducing COVID-19 deaths.

Normally that would make people suspicious of the study, since the taking the data at face value suggests a very strong protective effect from the vaccine against any kind of death. Nobody thinks that the vaccine is effective against breast cancer, heart disease, suicide, homicide, or being in a fatal work or auto accident, but the CDC study either has something else wrong with it, or the vaccine is effective against all of those causes of death.

The Freepers making fun of the study know that we are looking at another poorly done CDC study, not a miracle drug.

113 posted on 10/25/2021 12:11:01 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: edwinland; bagster

Thanks to both of you for taking a closer look at this. It certainly seems that the C in CDC does not stand for clarity here, and there is bias at work.


147 posted on 10/25/2021 5:14:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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