UK report raises concerns about suboptimal vaccine antibodies erasing natural immunity

The Blaze ^ | 10/25/2021 | Horowitz

[mikelets456]

On page 23 of PHE's "COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report Week 42," British health officials report a shocking finding. They believe their serology tests are underestimating the number of people with prior infection due to "recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination." In other words, the vaccine might be reducing the all-important N antibodies that one generates from natural infection. Kudos to former NYT reporter Alex Berenson for discovering this important point.

Until now, we've been operating under the assumption that those with prior infection don't need the vaccine to boost immunity and taking the shots would only expose them to the growing risk of side effects. However, what if the shots are actually sliding back the natural immunity generated in those with previous infection? What if that is related to the macro concern that a narrow-spectrum vaccine with suboptimal antibodies that only recognize the "S" (spike) protein of the virus but not the "N" (nucleocapsid) of the virus will cause B cells in those with the vaccine to learn to produce only S antibodies, which are slower-acting and less sterilizing (don't stop transmission) than N antibodies, which are faster-acting and are more effective in their protection against the virus?

[Bayard]

Should be thoroughly investigated.

But you can’t trust anything these days. CDC and NIH are compromised, and should not be believed unless what they say can be checked out by several independent experts.

We shouldn’t be in lockdown mode or forced anything. Let people figure out their own risks and make their own choices.

[John S Mosby]

No kidding-— imagine the NOTION of “Sub Optimal” antibodies, what a surprise.

Since the stupd “non-vaccines” are composed of a short clip of mRNA for the FREAKING Spike Proteins... and NONE of the actual infecting virus within the virion.

All this crap does is distract immune systems against the WRONG spike protein, now there are the expected more infective Delta and other variants naturally mutating to continue the life form of the virus. Boosters forever trying to keep up with mutations— how ridiculous.

See: the Preventive supplements that disable/prevent SPIKE protein linking with ACE2 receptors of the lung lining cells— the mechanism of the infection to start with!!

Survivors of the covid infection— use the supplements. Don’t let these bastards insert more mRNA to screw up your natural immunity. Boost your immunity, and make sure you have the antibody titers (T and helper cells) to stop any full virion content that might get past the first wall of defense.

[faucetman]

Isaiah 44:18 NIV

They know nothing, they understand nothing;

their eyes are plastered over so they cannot see,

and their minds closed so they cannot understand.

[ChildOfThe60s]

The principle of informed consent in this country is dead

[Blurb2350]

This is proving to be slow-motion health disaster. Each shot incapacitates the natural immune system a bit more. There’s already anecdotal evidence that cancer rates are spiking, esp. among people thought to be in remission. Remember cancer affects all of us — or tries to — but our immune system finds and destroys the cancerous cells and it never gets a foothold. Having a weakened immune system opens the door for these rogue cancerous cells. The next few months and years are going to be interesting.

[logi_cal869]

For most, I would agree. But I will violently defend the rights of the diminishing minority.

[Empire_of_Liberty]

Something is backwards in the except.

The first paragraph is talking about “vaccination” followed by infection. The second is speculating about infection followed by “vaccination”.

I can see how the “vaccination” could enable the development of S antibodies, and if these are effective enough in subsequent infection, then the patient may recover without developing any additional immunity.

I don’t see how “vaccination” can “erase” the immunity already developed in the recovered. Of course, we are “vaccinating” as this disease spreads, so there are no clear boundaries separating these events.

Not mentioned in the title, may be the real kicker that the “vaccinated” may never appear in testing as “recovered”, even when they are. So, in test measurement they don’t count toward herd immunity, while in government documentation, they do.

[Army Air Corps]

Ping.

[Belteshazzar]

Impeach 46, and the horse he rode in on.

[mvonfr]

Impeach 46, and the horse he rode in on.

Not so simple. The idiot has been likely set up to take the blame, and at some point he might end up impeached or Nuremberged. But what about thousands -- and, likely, millions -- he murdered?

[AK Retired]

I just saw my rheumatoligist. He has had some patients whose immune problems were under control until they took the jab. Now he is struggling to control their flares. I told him I won’t take the vaccine. He was happy, he won’t take it either.

[Jane Long]

On page 52 of Pfizer’s EUA … “it is admitted that antibody dependent disease enhancement was a possibility in the long run with waning efficacy” - you don’t say ping.

[tatown]

Obviously you don’t understand “safe and effective”. /s

[hecticskeptic]

I don’t know if this the right spot for this comment but here goes....

Here’s something I had not heard before about being EGT’d.... it comes from a discussion I had with a fellow in my office about 20 minutes ago. He has two family members who are both EGT’d and both of them have developed shingles (not sure how long after they got the shots). Anyway, his anecdote is about a mother and an adult daughter. One of them (almost certainly the mother) was even fully vaxxed against shingles. For the daughter, the shingles was very close to her eye and she ended up going to see an ophthalmologist…. The ophthalmologist told her that he has been absolutely dumfounded by the number of cases exactly like hers of people coming to him that have shingles. And in every case, they are all people who have been EGT’d….

Just a big co-inky-dink? I think not….

[LilFarmer]

Thanks for the ping. I remember seeing on the Red Cross web page back early this year which said that they would not accept convalescent plasma from vaccinated individuals because the vaccine wipes out antibodies. I sent that link to several in my family.

It was taken down within days, scrubbed/fact checked everywhere the net as conspiracy theory.

You can still find articles on it if you search back in January and February, but most have been scrubbed or “updated”.

Found this one:

“Officials say the vaccine depletes antibodies created by a person’s body that has successfully recovered from COVID-19. As a result, their plasma is no longer useful to someone critically ill with the virus. Convalescent plasma therapy was authorized by the FDA to be used by people suffering from COVID-19. “
https://www.kmov.com/news/can-i-donate-blood-after-receiving-the-covid-19-vaccine/article_ab882f7c-761c-11eb-a260-3ffd6acbb688.html

and

“When you get the vaccine it wipes out the antibodies that your body has developed when that person had covid-19 before, so it helps you but if you intend to try to help other people by donating your plasma then it negates it,” Pena said.”

https://www.wafb.com/2021/01/22/coronavirus-vaccine-could-affect-how-you-donate-plasma/

[Jane Long]

I remember when all of that came out, followed by the immediate scrubbing, as well.

This entire scamdemic and these clot shot 'fixes' have been nothing but LIES, from the beginning.

Here is an older thread about it....

THE RED CROSS DOESN'T WANT BLOOD FROM THE VACCINATED (specifies blood donations for 'convalescent plasma' donations to help those hospitalized with Covid-19)
bitchute.com ^ | May 19, 2021. | TruthVideos1984

Posted on 5/19/2021, 8:20:22 PM by ransomnote

Quote from the video; "The Red Cross says anyone who has received their vaccine cannot donate convalescent plasma to help other Covid-19 patients in hospitals. That plasma is made up of antibodies from people who have recovered from the virus, but the vaccine wipes out those antibodies, making the convalescent plasma ineffective in treating other Covid-19 patients."

[Jane Long]

Shirley, I need FJB to send me to one of those counseling and education classes. 🙃

[Freedom56v2]

Here’s something I had not heard before about being EGT’d.... it comes from a discussion I had with a fellow in my office about 20 minutes ago. He has two family members who are both EGT’d and both of them have developed shingles (not sure how long after they got the shots). Anyway, his anecdote is about a mother and an adult daughter. One of them (almost certainly the mother) was even fully vaxxed against shingles. For the daughter, the shingles was very close to her eye and she ended up going to see an ophthalmologist…. The ophthalmologist told her that he has been absolutely dumfounded by the number of cases exactly like hers of people coming to him that have shingles. And in every case, they are all people who have been EGT’d….

Just a big co-inky-dink? I think not….

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Wow! I have heard about increased cancer cases among EGT’d population—but the SHINGLES angle is news!

Thank you for posting.

Side note—my daughter was one of the last to actually contract Chicken Pox (vs. vaccine). She showed her first Chicken Pox in corner of her eye—guess where I took her...Ophthalmologist—full of seniors in waiting room :(

I felt really bad next day when her torso was covered in pox...

[RideForever]

Notice how all this argument goes away if early treatment of ivrmectin or HCQ is allowed. We should soon see the co9untries that allow early treatment clear the CoVID while nationa following the CDC death protocol are sill struggling with ‘variants’.

Variants are a result of lack of early treatment. Period.