I am more against any type of health mandates. Read all my posts regarding Obamacare mandates for health insurance.
Covid jabs are NOT mandated by the feds or any state gov’t as far as I know. I like it that way.
My problem is the incessant threads posted by medically UN-qualified posters which are all anecdotal. Why I say that? Because MORE THAN THREE TIMES American adults have chosen nto get jabbed than those who voted for president Trump in either run. Not only that the VAERS numbers for fatal side effects from the jabs are less than 0.003%.
Keep in mind Obese Americans die by the millions every year before covid arrived. And those are the ones who are most susceptible to fatal reaction from a vaccine. How does anyone know for certain the vaccine caused the death?
When someone dies testing positive for covid is registered as death from covid. If someone dies after vaccine, it is also r4egistered as death from vaccine. Both numbers are unproven and exaggerated.
With all due respect,
You said nothing about “obscene” or “porn” in your reply.
You took reply in different direction...
You do mention “UN-qualified” posters in both posts. So are YOU a qualified poster? If so, what makes you qualified vs. others on FR? If I post an article
Maybe you are qualified since you are in the medical trial/surveillance system? As I have stated in numerous posts, I was looking forward to a vaccine—(still have hopes), but I just wanted to wait—I am not an early adopter—especially in health products—Can you say FenFen, Thalidomide, Swine Flu Vax? Not to mention just allergic reactions.
If no one is in system, then there would be no system...And the system is moving towards passports... Read article below.
You gonna get booster #4, #5, etc. If so, you are in the system. I am in the control group which the powers that be seem determined to eliminate. How many times did they move the goal posts on herd immunity? First Fauci and CDC said “vaccines” would prevent infection and transmission, now they fiiinally admit they don’t... Masks work, they don’t, they do...I cannot keep up with the changing positions of these agencies.
Sheesh...I want qualified accountable people running these agencies, and clearly they are not—We even have Fauci funding Wuhan and torturing puppies...and people are supposed to trust what he says about “vaccines?” Sorry, I am not sorry that I don’t trust them yet “medically qualified posters” do.
BTW, if no kids get jabbed, then there won’t be mandates. I predict that if parents acquiesce, there will be mandates for kindergartners to go to school.
The system wants EVERYONE JABBED...I think the system is far more concerning than the COVID virus.
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You state: Covid jabs are NOT mandated by the feds or any state gov’t as far as I know. I like it that way.
No mandates? Uh there are even states requiring vax passports...
Here are some facts to bring you up to speed.
“...Some states have gone in the other direction. In New York City, for example, everyone aged 12 or above is required to show identification and proof of at least one vaccine dose if they want to access establishments for indoor dining, nightclubs, coffee shops, and bars.
This also includes gyms, movie theaters, and music venues. It’s called the Key to NYC and also means employees at these establishments must be vaccinated.
Passports are also in place in Hawaii and California, according to NASHP.
Meanwhile a total of NINETEEN states mandate vaccines for state workers. These include Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, New York, and Massachusetts.
Abbott’s efforts to legislate against employer vaccine mandates contrast with those of President Joe Biden, who last month announced that all federal contractors MUST have all employers vaccinated against COVID. He also said that private businesses with more than 100 staff must either require staff vaccination or require regular testing.”
BTW, 2 points, #1: some states are eliminating (or attempting to eliminate) any type of exemption, and #2: OSHA is writing up the regs...Fines of up to $700,000 if companies with over 100 employees don’t MANDATE jabs for all their employees.
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Your next point: My problem is the incessant threads posted by medically UN-qualified posters which are all anecdotal. Why I say that? Because MORE THAN THREE TIMES American adults have chosen to get jabbed than those who voted for president Trump in either run. (not sure why that is important???) Not only that the VAERS numbers for fatal side effects from the jabs are less than 0.003%. (And you trust the CDC/VAERS reporting? They have “tinkered” with everything from the definition of a vaccine to the data...)
I don’t see the relevance of whether MORE THAN THREE TIMES vaccinated as voted for Trump...Many Americans don’t vote, but the fear of COVID has been promoted for nearly 2 years...
It is so easy to look back and realize MAJORITY RULE IS NOT SMART RULE...Years ago because of USDA, everyone thought we were supposed to have 6 servings of carbs...Remember the Food Pyramid? How about aspartame? I could name more.
BTW, not correct that more than 3X Trump 2020 votes (even if you believe the MSM numbers which I believe are low): 74,223,369 x 3 = 222,670,107. Number of people fully vaccinated (that term will change) over age of 18 who could have voted: 205,482,061.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total
If you don’t like “incessant” threads with alternative information, then why not just move on instead of referring to them as porn?? Just find threads you like...You are blasting Freepers who are posting articles and studies and yes, their personal experiences yet YOU post incorrect information regarding facts (as I just cited above and will below) and you post anecdotally about your health, your vax experience—but that is OK because it is you and you are part of the system??
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You state: Keep in mind Obese Americans die by the millions every year before covid arrived. And those are the ones who are most susceptible to fatal reaction from a vaccine. How does anyone know for certain the vaccine caused the death?
Can you please source this “fact” about obese being most susceptible to fatal reaction from a “vaccine”?? I have not heard or read that it is obese who are having fatal reaction to vaccine—and I looked.
In fact, for those of us who are UN-qualified and actually look up facts, according to this source:
https://weillcornell.org/news/why-people-with-obesity-should-get-the-covid-19-vaccine :
Does being overweight or obese make the vaccine less effective?
Obesity can cause metabolic changes, including low-grade inflammation, which may hamper your immune system’s response to the vaccine, and ultimately, to the virus, Dr. Aronne says. Obesity also may affect your gut microbes, which may weaken your immune system’s response to infections—and vaccines.
In some studies, people with obesity, compared to those without, had reduced responses to influenza, hepatitis B, rabies, and tetanus vaccines. Research has also found that individuals with obesity produced about half as many antibodies as did lean people in response to a second dose of COVID-19 vaccine. These findings are inconclusive, however, and do not mean that you should skip the shot. “THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE VACCINE DOESN’T PROTECT PEOPLE WITH OBESITY,” Dr. Aronne stresses. “PEOPLE WITH OBESITY ABSOLUTELY MUST GET VACCINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.”
You ask: How does anyone know for certain cause of death?
Well because there are trends emerging—that is PURPOSE OF LONG-TERM CLINICAL TRIALS...Trends which are showing that the shots cause clotting, myocarditis, pericarditis, bell’s palsy, heart issues, etc. Of course the MSM and various government agencies are doing their devilish best to suppress that information.
And if you were correct (again, please find a link) that obesity is the number one reason for vaccine fatalities, then WTH are they mandating it? Wouldn’t it be medical malpractice? Don’t doctors require weight loss before certain surgeries can be performed if it is deemed dangerous to operate based on the patient’s weight?
Actually from what I have read, death and side effects from vaccines are under-reported because they now wait 14 days to consider a reaction a side effect. And conversely deaths and cases of COVID are overreported...Follow the money. Hospitals make money for COVID-related anything...BTW, I have family in health care field, so I am not anti-health care.
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This is FREE REPUBLIC. If the post is not truly obscene or pornographic, members are free to post threads which question “vaccines.” Of course everyone is welcome to support the vaccines—which you do robustly, but please don’t use words like “obscene” and “fear porn” to describe fellow Freepers posts of information with which you don’t agree.
#Words matter.
Enjoy the rest of your day.