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Gun that killed Halyna Hutchins used by crew off-set for fun: report
NY Post ^ | October 24, 2021 | Patrick Reilly

Posted on 10/24/2021 8:34:41 AM PDT by conservative98

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To: Mr. K

This might be a real come to Jesus moment for Alec Baldwin. Alec spewed a lot of hate. This is a good time for Christians to pray for him and not return the hate that evil wants.


41 posted on 10/24/2021 8:56:30 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Spok

A prop gun is a real gun. It’s simply listed as a prop. Notice we have yet to be told what kind of gun it is AND where it originally came from.


42 posted on 10/24/2021 8:56:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mr. K

“Even though he’s a liberal gun-control douchebag I still feel bad for the guy.”

I don’t. He broke every rule of firearms safety in the book AND a whole bunch of movie set safety rules. He fired the Union Armorer and replaced that person with an inexperienced 24 year old girl.

Baldwin is the producer of this dreck and as such he bears personal responsibility for everything that happens on the set.

Want to feel bad for someone? Feel bad for the dead woman and her family.

I hope Baldwin ends up bankrupt and in prison.

L


43 posted on 10/24/2021 8:58:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Mr. K
Even though he’s a liberal gun-control douchebag I still feel bad for the guy.

Over the years, Alec Baldwin chose to use his fame and soapbox to deride the 2A, responsible gun ownership and conservatives in general. Instead of learning about responsible gun ownership, hothead Alec Baldwin pointed a weapon directly at another human being and pulled the trigger. Alec Baldwin has killed a woman and wounded a man. Baldwin's own doing, by is own hand. He owns his irresponsible actions.

44 posted on 10/24/2021 8:58:48 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Who will portray Alec Baldwin in the SNL skit? )
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To: All

It was a real gun (a Colt) with a real bullet in it.

It didn’t “malfunction.” He pulled the trigger and it worked as designed.

A simple inspection of the weapon would have revealed an actual bullet was loaded. Five second inspection.

Baldwin hired the incompetent people on his set on the cheap as he was a producer on the project.

Negligent homicide.

His only home is that for political reasons (future film productions) the DA won’t indict him. Likely they’ll offer to pay off her family quickly.


45 posted on 10/24/2021 8:59:06 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: conservative98

Maybe I don’t understand filmmaking but why should live ammunition be on the set at all?


46 posted on 10/24/2021 8:59:27 AM PDT by Hootowl
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To: SoCal Pubbie

You are 98% correct. Other than a newer semi autos that need a little help to run well with blanks without a blank firing attachment.

A couple of examples I ran across was in Big Jake, where his son has a “new Bergman 1912” automatic. That was a Walther P-38 with some cosmetic changes. And in Planet of the Apes, the gorillas were carrying M-1 carbines with replacement stocks.
The list goes on.

So since most movie guns are real, it is a red line rule of no live ammo on the set. None... zero...never.

Also a little trivia. here’s how real the guns are. The guns are usually stored at a prop shop in California. If you want a couple of cases of Winchesters and Peacemakers for your movie, the guns aren’t just loaded up and sent to the out of state set. They are being transferred from one company to another (the production company).
Ergo, the guns are shipped to an FFL in the state in question, entered into his inventory and then legally transferred to the production company. The process goes reverse after the film is completed.

Also, the people playing with the after hours. Basically, the movie production company became an illegal gun store for out of state dopers from California with no background checks.

If you or I did the same exact acts, BATF would be at your door at 4am.


47 posted on 10/24/2021 8:59:35 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: plain talk

“This will result in either a major revamp of procedures for guns on sets or possibly kill the use of any real guns on sets.”

Not needed. What IS needed is enforcement of the rules which were fully adequate. The best rules in the world are useless if breaching them is not enforced. The armorer should go to prison. That’s the best way to ensure all future armorers take the job seriously.


48 posted on 10/24/2021 9:02:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Lurker

Your comment has been reviewed and approved for general use on this subject.


49 posted on 10/24/2021 9:02:59 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Halyna Hutchins didn't kill herself!!! )
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To: Bonemaker

Yep, I agree.


50 posted on 10/24/2021 9:04:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: SaxxonWoods

The prosecutor needs to ask only a single question:

“Who pulled the trigger, Mr. Baldwin?”

L


51 posted on 10/24/2021 9:05:35 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Killing two birds with one stone comes to mind. For some odd reason I think there is a jilted woman involved. The armorer does not seem stable IMHO. Check out her video here: https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/photos-this-is-the-woman-alec-baldwin-put-in-charge-of-firearms-for-his-low-budget-film/

Very very dangerous gal IMHO. Was Alec involved with both her and the victim?


52 posted on 10/24/2021 9:05:55 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: SaxxonWoods

bttt


53 posted on 10/24/2021 9:06:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Lurker

Where did you read that Hannah Gutierrez was a replacement? My understanding was that workers on the camera crew were the ones replaced.


54 posted on 10/24/2021 9:08:10 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: conservative98

That sounds like how the bullets got there, that the guns were used for target practice. There is no legitimate reason that live rounds should have been stored on set. That alone should be enough for manslaughter charges against the armorer and others.

It sounds like there were previous discharges of bullets and apparently nothing was done to investigate or correct the problem. Seems like a major oversight by the producer (Baldwin), the director, and the armorer.

I do not know much about guns, unlike other here. However, I thought mid 19th century small arms did not have the velocity of current weapons. It seems like it would be hard to kill one person and wound another with the same bullet. I am suspicious of that story. Was more than one live round fired or was it fired at close range? Also, since you should not be aiming at anyone, particularly not an actor, how do you aim the gun so that you hit two people!?

Supposedly, Baldwin’s net worth is $60 million. I doubt he will be bankrupted by lawsuits, since only one person was killed.

I do not mean to be prejudiced about age and gender, but WTF with the armorer. Maybe she was hired due to all of being cheap, connections, and favors.

Was Baldwin given a drug and alcohol tests? If not, why not?


55 posted on 10/24/2021 9:08:58 AM PDT by xxqqzz
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I hope Baldwin ends up bankrupt and in prison.

Right after his testicles get delivered to the photog's husband, in a neat little box.

56 posted on 10/24/2021 9:11:06 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Oh - that’s 2 strikes for Baldwin - he pulled the trigger and he, as Producer, would be the big boss, and the one who made the on-set production decisions. Like bringing in the very unqualified crew.

There will have to be some responsibility/culpability applied here. A woman is dead and it appears there were many unsafe conditions on the set.

JM2C.


57 posted on 10/24/2021 9:11:13 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: M1903A1

Aren’t those airsoft guns?


58 posted on 10/24/2021 9:11:22 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Cold Heart

And there we go... This is the reply I was hoping for.


59 posted on 10/24/2021 9:12:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: conservative98; All

Short tik-tok video of the armorer. Bad language. you don’t want her anywhere near a movie set:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1451863147401338882


60 posted on 10/24/2021 9:12:50 AM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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