Posted on 10/23/2021 11:54:34 AM PDT by ransomnote
ransomnote: I've seen a few reports now which track a reduction in the immune systems of those who are double vaccinated. None are implying that the virus responsible for AIDS is causing immune defficiency in the 'vaccinated'. Instead they point to something link 'vaccine mediated acquired immunodeficiency syndrome.'
By a concerned reader
The 7 Public Health England (PHE) / UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance reports of all fully genome sequenced Delta variant cases, separated by 6 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune response of the double vaccinated. PHE / UKHSA have done so much great work and are continuing to paint an extremely clear picture.
Vaccine effectiveness is measured using Pfizer’s vaccine effectiveness formula –
(Unvaccinated case rate – Vaccinated case rate / the Larger of Unvaxxed or Vaxxed case rate)
We are using the normalised absolute ratio of vaxxed to unvaxxed case numbers to determine vaccine efficiency just as Pfizer itself does.
A Vaccine effictiveness of +50% means that double vaccinated people are 50% more protected from Covid than unvaccinated people. It means that the Delta case rate in the vaccinated is half the Delta case rate in the unvaccinated.
A Vaccine effectiveness of -50% means that unvaccinated people are 50% more protected from Covid than double vaccinated people. It means that the Delta case rate in the vaccinated is double the Delta case rate in the unvaccinated.
A Vaccine effectiveness of 0% means that doubly vaccinated people are 0% more protected from Covid than unvaccinated people. It means that the Delta case rate in the vaxxed equals the Delta case rate in the unvaxxed. It means the vaccines have lost all their effectiveness.
Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (certainly for Covid and most likely for viruses and certain cancers – following the evidence from Cole Diagnostics in Idaho and Dr Nathan Thompson and Dr Ralph Baric) within 13 weeks.
Double vaccinated 30-49 year olds will have lost it by Christmas. These people will then have no immune defence to Covid at all. The question then becomes how much of the immune system is involved in defending against Covid? The worst case scenario is that they effectively have full blown acquired immunodeficiency syndrome and destroy the NHS.
Unless a cure is found quickly they may well die (as occurred at the start of the AIDS epidemic).
“In individuals aged greater than 30, the rate of positive COVID-19 test is higher in vaccinated individuals compared to unvaccinated”. – PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report for week 41.
“There is the potential for ADE, but the bigger problem is probably Th2 immunopathology,” says Ralph Baric, an epidemiologist and expert in coronaviruses—named for the crown-shaped spike they use to enter human cells—at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
In previous studies of SARS, aged mice were found to have particularly high risks of life-threatening Th2 immunopathology in which a faulty T cell response triggers allergic inflammation, and poorly functional antibodies that form immune complexes, activating the complement system and potentially damaging the airways.”.
Baric expresses his concern about what that might mean for use of a COVID-19 vaccine in elderly people. “Of course, the elderly are our most vulnerable population,” he adds. – https://www.pnas.org/content/117/15/8218 (the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA)
The underlined passage (which has been redacted from the online PNAS report – but is in many other online copies – https://principia-scientific.com/study-covid-19-vaccine-can-destroy-your-immune-system/) is critical as it relates to an immune deficiency in killer T cells.
Dr Baric should know because in 2002 on April 19, the University of North Carolina filed US patent 7279327 for an infectious replication defective coronavirus (to be used as a virus vector for an HIV vaccine), claiming priority from US28531801P. Inventors were: Kristopher M. Curtis, Boyd Yount, Ralph S. Baric
This was seen by Dr Ryan Cole who was trained at the Mayo Clinic and runs the largest Independent testing lab in Idaho – USA. Dr Cole has done over 100,000 pathology lab examinations from Covid patients. He identified what he is seeing as a form of AIDS (reverse HIV he called it – where you lose CD8 killer T cells rather than CD4 Helper T cells).
These immune system degradations could be caused by ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement – where the vaccine induced antibodies start working in reverse) and be specific to Covid, or could be more general and result in a form of vaccine mediated AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome). Baric suspects the latter above. The fact that the 3rd Jabs worked in Israel (for a short period of time before the 4th jabs were proposed) means that vaccine antibodies do still have a protective effect immediately after vaccination. So that rules out ADE.
The falling efficacy of the vaccines does not asymptotically approach zero (which would mean that vaccines merely lose effectiveness over time). It goes straight through zero and then goes dangerously negative (which means the vaccines become toxic to the immune system). Then it becomes increasingly negative in a linear manner week on week. If this continues then the vaccines will completely destroy the part of your immune system which deals with Covid by the end of January.
This may well result in more cases of Shingles, HPV, Herpes, Epstein Barr, Endometriosis and other viral infections – https://www.nbc12.com/2021/10/15/reports-shingles-outbreaks-not-directly-linked-covid-19-vaccine/
HARRISONBURG, Va. (WHSV) – There have been case studies showing people are experiencing recurrences or outbreaks of shingles after getting the COVID-19 vaccine. Local doctors say that is rare and not necessarily caused by the vaccine.
“I’ve seen a lot of shingles recently, but I haven’t seen it associated with the vaccine personally. That’s my personal experience,” Dr. Jennifer Derby, a family physician with Sentara RMH, said. (2021October15)
The vaccine booster shots have to be the same as the vaccines themselves, because it takes forever to do clinical trials and get approval for something different. So if you take a booster shot, these figures show that you are giving yourself an even faster progressive form of AIDS (after an initial few months of effectiveness). The risk benefit analysis for these vaccines has now become a risk detriment analysis for everyone over 30.
The immune system boost or degradation column, which is the vaccine efficiency/inefficiency column, column10, is calculated from Pfizer’s vaccine efficiency formula of
U-V/U for U>V
U-V/V for V>U
which formula they used to claim 95% vaccine efficiency against Wuhan alpha.
Cases reported by specimen date between week 32 and week 35 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1016465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf
Cases reported by specimen date between week 33 and week 36 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018416/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_37_v2.pdf
Cases reported by specimen date between week 34 and week 37 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019992/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_38.pdf
Cases reported by specimen date between week 36 and week 39 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf
Cases reported by specimen date between week 37 and week 40 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf
Cases reported by specimen date between week 38 and week 41 2021 – https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf
If the case numbers of the vaccinated simply converged and met up with the case numbers of the unvaccinated then the vaccine would have merely lost its effectiveness and the tables would all be green and the vaccine efficiency would be ZERO.
But that did not happen. The vaccinated case numbers are now twice the unvaccinated case numbers per 100k people, and the tables have all gone red.
That means the vaccine have not merely lost their efficiency. They have not merely stopped working. They are still very much working. But they are working against your immune system rather than for it. They are suppressing your immune response. They are damaging your immune system. They are causing it for become worse than if you had not taken the vaccine. They are toxic to your immune system. They are not merely ineffective. They are negatively effective.
The inescapable immunological conclusion from this data is that the case rate being higher in the vaccinated means that the immune system is lower in the vaccinated.
This suggests that the vaccines are damaging the immune response, which in turn suggests that the vaccines are damaging the immune system, therefore making the immune system deficient.
This suggests that the vaccines are giving people vaccine mediated immune deficiency, which therefore suggests the vaccines are giving people a form of AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome).
What is so remarkable is the speed and the consistency of the immunological degradation.
The Immune System boost/degradation column is a measure of the boost or damage to your immune system – see report
The Vaccine Efficacy % for double vaccinated column shows how much more or less resistant to Covid the double vaccinated are than the unvaccinated – see report
So if you are 40 years old and double vaccinated then your immune response is now degraded by 55.4%. This means that unvaccinated 40 year olds are 55.4% less likely to catch Covid than the doubly vaccinated. Whilst double vaccinated 40 year olds are 124% more likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated.
You can look at it either way. It just depends whether your chosen parameter is the doubly vaccinated or the unvaccinated. But whichever one you choose, the outlook this winter for those who have been fully vaccinated with the experimental Covid-19 injections looks terrible.
Most people who get shingles actually also had chicken pox, has nothing to do with the vaccine!!
I don’t think the vax depletes the immune system my doc is saying he is finding MANY new patients with autoimmune problems and what this article states is not the same thing!! I am immune comprised my immune system was attacking my central nervous system MS my doc has had me in remission for 6 years would NEVER take a chance on this vax NO WAY!!
Yes, they're saying "Please clap."
Linky, if you please.
you never know....I could loose many people...family...friends.....its going to make me very angry.
Sorry, posted it on the open thread rather than FReepmail.
Well, the content is the same anyway.
Please reconsider your “blowing it off” attitude.
folks this so called virus is survivable without one med for most people and for others simple drugs like ivermectin or Hydrochloroquine work wonderfully...
the ONLY reason we got this vaxx approved thur "emergency use" is because the CDC and Falsi would not allow ivermectin or hydrochlorquine to be used at all....that is the only reason they were lawfully able to push the vaxx out....
will people just sit back and ask themselves WHY would they do this.....the reasons are not pretty.
placebos were used for many people and others got doses that dropped them in their tracks within a few days or weeks....
the info is there...ignore it at your peril....
btw, some drs suggest there are protocols to treat those vaxxed.....
its easier to fool someone then to tell them that they have been fooled....
that is what we are up against....
Linky, if you please.
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Not sure where the one I want is. This link shows him on a patio but the one where he gets a twinkle in his eye about that brilliant researcher, saying “I think I may know who that was,” appears to have been photographed in a kitchen and has more detail.
This link, at the 42 minute mark has him mocking “Scariants” (instead of variants) or what he calls “Same-iants” because they are far too similar to require a separate vax. His comments about knowing that we don’t need vaxes for variants is rather sobering when he points out they can just announce a new variant has been found and order you to get that shot without actually testing the new shots because they’ll be so similar. Yes. Really.
Something that stays on my mind. They’ve been trying to get the flu to panic us. Every year, a bigger and bigger shriek fest about the flu is gonna get us. remember h1n1 and Sars1? Since those who were tested with SARS1 were immune to SARS2 17 years later because they are ‘only 22% different’, I...ahem...think they’ve been lying to us about the ‘annual flu vaccine’. *sigh* It’s possible they’ve been experimenting on us, or a portion of us, for awhile, me thinks. Our immune systems don’t require a complete retooling everytime it meets a similar virus.
Robert Kennedy Jr. made the point that they’ve been rolling pneumonia deaths in with the much fewer annual flu deaths their are, declaring it ALL flu and pushing the flu vax. He has asked people for years if they ever knew someone who died of flu and only one said ‘yes’ and notes that if the flu deaths matched the CDC stats, we’d all know people who died of flu.
I checked the CDC website and even if the link in the search results says “Covid” or Covid and INfluenza (WHY combine those numbers) when I clicked on the link to the chart - it was actually numbers of PIC (Pneumonia, Influenza and Covid). Again - why combine the numbers? They’ve been lying for so long, they can just move the numbers around those illnesses to get any ‘result’ they want.
https://i.imgflip.com/54ka60.jpg
Yeah. I’ll just show myself out. *footsteps*
Chix pox immunity degrades. In the old days before the day care vaccine was used all the children got chix pox and most adults were re-immunized each time they came in contact with them. Not anymore.
As a matter of fact as a child the only adult I recall who had shingles was a woman who lived in a boarding house and had no family.
Hmm, whose anecdotal evidence counts the most?
Guess we will have to wait a few decades to see what happens.
‘There are a lot of stories of folks getting double vaxxed and getting shingles.’
It is called a “rare” side effect, but I do not think it is all that rare...”
I apparently had a brush with shingles after my first Pfizer shot. I had a red rash around the vaccine injection site. It went away in about 2-3 days and with minimal itching. My RN wife treated my rash with Aloe Vera gel. NADA/nothing with my second Pfizer vaccine shot.
My adopted older brother, also, got the classic Shingles rash around his abdomen after his first Pfizer shot. They took pictures, and he was scheduled for a doctor visit and his rash disappeared in 3-4 days before he saw the doctor.
He and I had both Shingle shots in 2019.
And, if you are NOT convinced (coerced/brainwashed) to have taken these shots.....the CDC will soon *counsel* you.... (h/t Rusty0604)....
CDC’s Walensky: Biden Administration Planning ‘Education and Counseling’ for Unvaccinated
Wallace continued, “Are you still full speed ahead on mandates for essential workers to get vaccinated?”
Walensky said, “We have seen that these mandates are getting more and more people vaccinated. Here’s what we know, the most disruptive thing that you can do to a workforce is to have a COVID outbreak in that workforce. That was definitely not only send people home but send people to the hospital, and some may pass. What we know from the police workforce is there have been more deaths from the coronavirus over the last year and a half than all other causes of death for that workforce combined. So we believe it is very important to get these people vaccinated. There is a plan, should these people not want to be vaccinated, towards education and counseling to get people the information they need so that they are feeling comfortable in getting vaccinated.”
Re-education camps cannot be too far behind
I’m ignoring the tidal wave of scare anecdotes but not at my peril. I was one of the lucky ones who did not fall into the 0.05% with serious side effects.
Or maybe, according to your other paranoid scenario, I got the placebo and have been walking around NYC, going to meetings, working in a crowded office, and riding the packed subway cars in danger of my life but somehow with not even the slightest sniffle. Mysteries never cease!
Yes, it must be the placebo, and all our health care officials and millions all over the world have been lying to us. Yes, that must be it.
If there were not real lives at stake, I would not care at all about the raging paranoia of what used to be the right wing and has now become the lunatic fringe.
Jim please correct me if I’m wrong re using this post re calculating my immune system after vaccination.
Jim’s calculation re his vanishing immune system, post vaccination.
My second dose was January 7. And I am a senior citizen by any definition.
That was 41 weeks ago. So, at 5% a week, I am now -205%, or, assuming my immune system was 100% on December 16, 2020 when I got the first dose of Pfizer, I should now have a -115% immune system.
AND, I’m around COVID almost every day.
Just lucky, I guess.
45 posted on 10/23/2021 1:23:07 PM PDT by Jim Noble
Where my immune system is, if this reprint is valid after my Pfizer shots.
Jim, my first Pfizer vaccination was on 1/31/2021. Second shot on 2/21/21:
37 Weeks since first shot
259 days since first shot
8.4 Months since first shot
37 weeks X at 7.1 % immune system loss a week when over 80 years = -185 %
GrampaDave
Or maybe, according to your other paranoid scenario, I got the placebo and have been walking around NYC, going to meetings, working in a crowded office, and riding the packed subway cars in danger of my life but somehow with not even the slightest sniffle. Mysteries never cease!
Yes, it must be the placebo, and all our health care officials and millions all over the world have been lying to us. Yes, that must be it.
That’s an odd statement to make....considering that you, yourself, originally thought you’d received....the placebo.
I remember you posting that, at the time.
🙃
I was making a joke about not having the slightest side effect.
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