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Alec Baldwin ignored the No. 1 rule of gun safety: Hollywood weapons expert
NY Post ^ | October 23, 2021 | By Kerry J. Byrne and Dana Kennedy

Posted on 10/23/2021 11:06:53 AM PDT by conservative98

Alec Baldwin failed to follow the No. 1 rule of gun safety before the fatal shooting on the set of “Rust,” a Hollywood weapons expert tells The Post.

“Loaded or unloaded, a weapon never gets pointed at another human being,” said Bryan Carpenter, who heads Dark Thirty Film Services.

Even on a film or TV set, he said “you never let the muzzle of a weapon cover something you don’t intend to destroy.”

The prop gun had misfired twice on Oct. 16 and once the week before, according to the Los Angeles times, and union workers said the “Rust” set had been plagued by safety issues, prompting them to walk out in the hours ahead of the tragic shooting.

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“Nonetheless,” Carpenter said, the weapon handled by Baldwin was “obviously pointed at another human being.”

The weapons consultant cited what he called “Colonel Jeff Cooper’s four fundamentals” of gun safety.

“All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are,” reads the No. 1 rule by Cooper, an influential gun safety expert who died in 2006.

While news reports call the firearm a “prop” weapon, Carpenter said the label can be misleading. Some movie-set firearms are “true” props made of rubber. But others, like the one used on the set of “Rust,” are capable of deadly force.

The consultant also said that for safety purposes live firearms used in TV and movie productions are typically aimed at a dummy point, not at equipment, cast or crew members, as was the case with the weapon handled by Baldwin.

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To: conservative98

Baldwin has ridiculed gun owners for years.
Maybe every statement he has made on gun owners and the evils of guns should be applied to his actions in the death of this lady. He’s always screamed for penalties for anyone who causes a gun death.


81 posted on 10/23/2021 12:18:50 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: conservative98

82 posted on 10/23/2021 12:19:40 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: conservative98

My rule No. 1: The first thing I do when I pick up (or am handed) a firearm is to determine whether or not it’s loaded, and especially whether or not there is a round in the chamber. My rule No. 2: I do NOT place my finger on the trigger or point the muzzle of the weapon at anything I do not intend to shoot!


83 posted on 10/23/2021 12:23:58 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Mean Daddy

Rule #2: Alcohol and firearms do not mix.

Rule #3 (the Dick Cheney rule): If you are not sure if your target is human or animal, don’t shoot. Better to let one get away than have to live with guilt the rest of your life.


84 posted on 10/23/2021 12:25:15 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: TexasGator; Fai Mao

For films, they usually use a cartridge conversion cylinder installed in a cap and ball revolver to easily load it with blank cartridges instead of loading it muzzle loader style with black powder and a paper or foam wad in place of the bullet. To fire a cap and ball pistol, the hammer hits the cap igniting the powder inside the cylinder. It’s where the term “Pop a cap” came from, a phrase used as far back as the Civil War.

I have a number of cap and ball revolvers and have fired thousands of rounds out of them, but rarely have had a misfire, which means the cap (primer) failed to ignite and discharge the lead ball (bullet).


85 posted on 10/23/2021 12:27:52 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Trillian

Winner!


86 posted on 10/23/2021 12:28:25 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: conservative98

An adult under any circumstance not related to the actual production of the film has no business pointing a weapon at anyone and pulling the trigger, especially not knowing the status of the weapon (Hint: The weapon is always loaded). The shooter and only the shooter is responsible for this tragedy.

You don’t point a gun at someone and pull the trigger unless you intend to shoot them.


87 posted on 10/23/2021 12:29:03 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: carriage_hill

How hard is it to bring bullets that the gun is likely chambered for, and load the correct one while you’re pulling your little union trick? You might have even had opportunity to handle it, previously, and know.

They set a trap that killed someone, and Baldwin was stupid enough to set it off. Murder.

If anyone, using their own weapon, tried to claim that they didn’t load it with real bullets, I would need serious convincing to believe them. In this case, I find it highly UNLIKELY that Baldwin loaded this weapon.

Whoever did is a murderer, and the police seem to want him to get away.


88 posted on 10/23/2021 12:30:31 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

More serious than people think.
•He was responsible for the gun the moment he picked it up
•He did not check the load status
•He deliberately cocked the gun’s hammer (single action revolver)
•He pointed the gun in the direction of a human being
•He placed his finger on the trigger and fired the pistol


89 posted on 10/23/2021 12:41:13 PM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: Inyo-Mono
"For films, they usually use a cartridge conversion cylinder installed in a cap and ball revolver to easily load it with blank cartridges instead of loading it muzzle loader style with black powder and a paper or foam wad in place of the bullet. "

Makes sense.


90 posted on 10/23/2021 12:43:37 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: FormerFRLurker

“Rule #3 (the Dick Cheney rule): If you are not sure if your target is human or animal, don’t shoot. Better to let one get away than have to live with guilt the rest of your life.”

I don’t think Cheney thought the other guy was a quail.


91 posted on 10/23/2021 12:47:04 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: .44 Special

And about ten more rules related to the use of Guns on a movie site.


92 posted on 10/23/2021 12:50:03 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator

I don’t think Cheney thought the other guy was a quail.

I read somewhere (I forget where) that that was indeed Cheney's defense. Of course he was probably trying to cover up his violation of Rule #2.

93 posted on 10/23/2021 12:56:55 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: Trillian

Brilliant.

L


94 posted on 10/23/2021 1:03:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: FormerFRLurker

You lost me.


95 posted on 10/23/2021 1:05:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator

Really. There’s that little thing called the “hammer”. By the way, is it CERTAIN it was a single-action revolver? Sounds more like a semi-auto to me out here in fly-overville.


96 posted on 10/23/2021 1:11:10 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: 75thOVI
“Nobody was ever killed by an unloaded gun. But, the graveyards are full of people who thought the gun was unloaded.”

Your father was a wise man.

97 posted on 10/23/2021 1:11:36 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: conservative98
I read yesterday that Baldwin is a co-producer on this film.

Legally, that means his personal financial liability is much more at risk than it would be if he was just a hired actor.

98 posted on 10/23/2021 1:27:21 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Highly doubtful Baldwin had anything to do with loading it. He’s a libtard punk and should have been playing the town idiot, not handling any firearms.


99 posted on 10/23/2021 2:02:22 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: northislander

LOL!


100 posted on 10/23/2021 2:04:36 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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