Posted on 10/23/2021 11:06:53 AM PDT by conservative98
Alec Baldwin failed to follow the No. 1 rule of gun safety before the fatal shooting on the set of “Rust,” a Hollywood weapons expert tells The Post.
“Loaded or unloaded, a weapon never gets pointed at another human being,” said Bryan Carpenter, who heads Dark Thirty Film Services.
Even on a film or TV set, he said “you never let the muzzle of a weapon cover something you don’t intend to destroy.”
The prop gun had misfired twice on Oct. 16 and once the week before, according to the Los Angeles times, and union workers said the “Rust” set had been plagued by safety issues, prompting them to walk out in the hours ahead of the tragic shooting.
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“Nonetheless,” Carpenter said, the weapon handled by Baldwin was “obviously pointed at another human being.”
The weapons consultant cited what he called “Colonel Jeff Cooper’s four fundamentals” of gun safety.
“All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are,” reads the No. 1 rule by Cooper, an influential gun safety expert who died in 2006.
While news reports call the firearm a “prop” weapon, Carpenter said the label can be misleading. Some movie-set firearms are “true” props made of rubber. But others, like the one used on the set of “Rust,” are capable of deadly force.
The consultant also said that for safety purposes live firearms used in TV and movie productions are typically aimed at a dummy point, not at equipment, cast or crew members, as was the case with the weapon handled by Baldwin.
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“Not necessarily. If the safety catch was off, he could have just picked it up by the trigger guard.”
Have you ever handled a single-action revolver?
“Anyone who thought this was a good “joke” may be dumb enough to have left prints, too.”
It was reported that the armorer gave the spent casing to the police. By the wording I assumed he had removed and handled the casing before police arrived.
I wonder what legal consequences Alec Baldwin will face. His virulent anti-Trump rhetoric would be a “get out of jail free” card if he needed one. Maybe 40 hours community service?
Maybe, but the guns might be rubber. What looks more likely is photoshop, they weren’t all present at the same time. The shadows are a joke. It does look like the guy in the reddish vest would miss both the others. His arms point at the others, but his wrists are cocked open and pointing the pistols out just past the side of the other guys. Looks really dumb if you look close, no one shoots like that.
As much as I dislike Baldwin from what I have heard about him, IMHO the blame for this tragedy falls on the armorer and director.
If the script had Baldwin shoot at the camera for the scene, the director should have either changed the scene, or somehow remotely operated the camera while having the armorer triple check the firearm.
Actors are paid for their expertise on acting, not weapons and safety.
Not even close. Once you pick up a firearm...YOU are responsible for what happens. Anyone who has had a modicum of basic firearm safety training is aware of the responsibility.
Baldwin ignored safety protocol, aimed the gun and pulled the trigger. Several people will likely be held accountable...Baldwin should be in that group.
This pink haired girl was the armorer?
How do you tell .45cal Colt from .45cal Long Colt? Without looking at the ammo? It could have been chambered in another caliber, too. Whomever handled it would leave prints, although SFB Baldwin may have destroyed them.
Baldwin always struck me as a particularly repulsive SOB, the kind of guy you just have the urge to beat the sh*t out of!
“OK, aren’t those three guys aiming their guns at one another?”
Looking closer, it appears none are aimed at a person.
“My brother and I learned that lesson from our father when we got our first BB guns at around age ten to twelve.”
I wasn’t allowed to have a BB gun when the other kids all got them. My father said, too many people think they are toys, and guns aren’t toys. My cousins would shoot each other and thought it was hysterical. But I did start shooting Dad’s guns at 9 and got my first gun at 13. I just skipped BB guns.
Yes. She was the armorer.
Idiotic.
It all doesn’t mean a pinch of Goose $hit, Baldwin pulled the damn trigger, she may have told him it was hot even if she didn’t he was responsible. My 2cents.
“His arms point at the others, but his wrists are cocked open and pointing the pistols out just past the side of the other guys. Looks really dumb if you look close, no one shoots like that.”
True. Generally, scenes are setup like this. Most movie goers don’t notice.
You and I think alike on those things. They weren’t recording, they were probably in that seemingly interminable time that happens before 2 minutes of recording and you’re done for another 3 hours.
Only Baldwin knows what he was thinking, but there is no excuse for pointing a gun at those people, and it’s even more egregious that he pulled the trigger! It’s a crime of negligence, the question is the degree. If he’s not charged it’s a travesty.
Alcohol and guns are always a bad combination.
I guess you can commit murder, if you’re surrounded by stupid people.
The moment two people were shot, that was a crime scene.
In this case, Alec Baldwin, Alec Baldwin, and Alec Baldwin.
We'll find out, but he shot and killed the cinematographer. It wouldn't be odd to shoot a scene where the actor is pointing the gun towards the camera (and therefore the person behind the camera).
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