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Alec Baldwin ignored the No. 1 rule of gun safety: Hollywood weapons expert
NY Post ^ | October 23, 2021 | By Kerry J. Byrne and Dana Kennedy

Posted on 10/23/2021 11:06:53 AM PDT by conservative98

Alec Baldwin failed to follow the No. 1 rule of gun safety before the fatal shooting on the set of “Rust,” a Hollywood weapons expert tells The Post.

“Loaded or unloaded, a weapon never gets pointed at another human being,” said Bryan Carpenter, who heads Dark Thirty Film Services.

Even on a film or TV set, he said “you never let the muzzle of a weapon cover something you don’t intend to destroy.”

The prop gun had misfired twice on Oct. 16 and once the week before, according to the Los Angeles times, and union workers said the “Rust” set had been plagued by safety issues, prompting them to walk out in the hours ahead of the tragic shooting.

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“Nonetheless,” Carpenter said, the weapon handled by Baldwin was “obviously pointed at another human being.”

The weapons consultant cited what he called “Colonel Jeff Cooper’s four fundamentals” of gun safety.

“All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are,” reads the No. 1 rule by Cooper, an influential gun safety expert who died in 2006.

While news reports call the firearm a “prop” weapon, Carpenter said the label can be misleading. Some movie-set firearms are “true” props made of rubber. But others, like the one used on the set of “Rust,” are capable of deadly force.

The consultant also said that for safety purposes live firearms used in TV and movie productions are typically aimed at a dummy point, not at equipment, cast or crew members, as was the case with the weapon handled by Baldwin.

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To: TexasGator

You can see this in THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY in which Clint Eastwood cleans his black powder revolver, then loads cartridges into it. They year is supposed to be 1863, and cartridge conversions did not happen till several years later.

But then, John Wayne was using an 1873 Colt revolver in the 1840s in THE COMANACHEROS.

There are those of us who notice such little things.

I did not know the difference until I saw TEXAS ACROSS THE RIVER back in 1966. Dean Martin and Joey bishop were using Remington revolvers. That was when I started noticing different types of revolvers in movies.


121 posted on 10/23/2021 4:54:00 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. For how long? Back in jail again! 4th time this year!)
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To: FormerFRLurker

100% agree. His dad was the one that taught me about hunting. God help you if you ever swung your gun to shoot a pheasant. I’m guessing his son got his ass kicked for treating a shotgun like a toy.


122 posted on 10/23/2021 5:29:22 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I quit commenting on firearms accuracy in movies to preserve my marriage. 😀


123 posted on 10/23/2021 5:48:51 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: yesthatjallen
Perhaps it was to show a gun firing into the camera. The bullet would go through the camera and then hit two people...

#1 Is a bullet stronger than a camera?

#2 then there will be a video of the incident, maybe even more

124 posted on 10/23/2021 7:44:49 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: conservative98

Why did they use a real gun? Use a fake plastic one and add the noise, and visuals in post-production.


125 posted on 10/23/2021 7:45:55 PM PDT by brianr10
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To: castlebrew
> The responsibility for firearm safety lies with the one who handles the firearm, and ultimately with the one who pulled the trigger.

You are obviously a responsible adult and knowledgeable firearms owner.

Actors are rarely either of these, and Baldwin certainly isn't .

126 posted on 10/23/2021 8:18:32 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: Rummyfan

Regardless of who prepared the weapon and handed it to him, Alec Baldwin aimed it and pulled the trigger. There is no escaping that fact.


Is there any person who is so holy that you don’t need to check a firearm you are handed for loaded status? Is it ok not to check if it’s your spouse? Your boss? Your priest? Your armorer?

NO. THERE IS NO ONE SO ANGELICAL THAT THE BEARER NEED NOT CHECK THE GUN. Thus all unchecked guns must be considered loaded.


127 posted on 10/23/2021 8:26:27 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: yesthatjallen

He shot two non-actors. If he was rehearsing a scene how did he end up shooting crew members and not the actors in the scene? Why was he point the gun at crew members when he fired the gun?


Quite the question, isn’t it??


128 posted on 10/23/2021 8:27:25 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SecondAmendment

They do always remove the camera operator for firing shots. There are some major questions here.


129 posted on 10/23/2021 8:29:11 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: .44 Special
You cannot get away from those facts.

More serious than people think. •He was responsible for the gun the moment he picked it up •He did not check the load status •He deliberately cocked the gun’s hammer (single action revolver) •He pointed the gun in the direction of a human being •He placed his finger on the trigger and fired the pistol

130 posted on 10/23/2021 8:34:57 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SecondAmendment

“Actors are rarely either of these, and Baldwin certainly isn’t .”

As producer he is responsible for knowing.


131 posted on 10/23/2021 8:36:23 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: brianr10

Why did they use a real gun? Use a fake plastic one and add the noise, and visuals in post-production.


I guarantee this will be a new law now.


132 posted on 10/23/2021 8:37:27 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: brianr10

Some of the old TV shows such as CHIPS used rubber pistols.

Some movies used rubber firearms. I remember seeing a rubber 45-70 Springfield bent in one action scene, then be straight in the next.
In one old TV show, Claude Akins used his sheriff father’s pistol till someone stole it on the set.

With today’s incompetence of actors with firearms,maybe they should just point their finger and say “bang”. Then have a CGI gun replace it.


133 posted on 10/23/2021 9:39:10 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. For how long? Back in jail again! 4th time this year!)
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To: brianr10

In the old TV show Wyatt Earp the Hugh O’Brian demanded full power blanks be used. Some began to lose their hearing as a result.
In seeing a clip of how the original Charlie’s Angels was made they were using true squib loads and adding the BANG later.


134 posted on 10/23/2021 9:43:18 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT OF FB JAIL! and back on the attack. For how long? Back in jail again! 4th time this year!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I guarantee when all is said and done a myriad of safety violations will be found…

Perhaps If OSHA had been doing its job, rather than writing unconstitutional vaccine mandates this wouldn’t have happened…

Just a thought


135 posted on 10/23/2021 9:45:39 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: NautiNurse
The infamous circular firing squad.

The REAL DEAL "infamous circular firing squad" would be composed of recognizable Republicans, and have a LOT more members...

;>)

136 posted on 10/24/2021 6:36:13 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: conservative98

I’m bored, may I count on Freepers to post another 50 articles about Alec Baldwin?


137 posted on 10/24/2021 7:49:15 AM PDT by Inkyfingers (USS Tautog SSN639-Freely navigated the waters of our enemies. Silent Service - Bubble Head)
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To: conservative98

Perhaps INSTEAD of condemning guns and gun owners, Alec Baldwin should have learned BASIC gun safety! The REALITY is that he pointed a loaded gun at a person and PULLED THE TRIGGER! That is NO “misfire”, the firearm WORKED AS DESIGNED. HE failed to CHECK to ENSURE that it was unloaded. I’ll bet he did not even know HOW to CLEAR it.


138 posted on 10/24/2021 4:19:16 PM PDT by 2harddrive (FREE 3D-printable Firearm blueprints available here: https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/)
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