Posted on 10/23/2021 6:53:59 AM PDT by Truth29
Anyone seen the new Dune? Is it Woke or otherwise polluted with leftism? Worth the money to see it in a theater?
See post 19—and check out the movie I recommended there.
Brilliant screen-writers can do amazing things that would be totally impossible and unthinkable for mediocre screen-writers.
So do I.
Yup, more reason to read the books.
Or at least read them first.
The books are excellent.
At $8 it wouldn't be much, but I am not thrilled that it is part 1 and ends in the middle of the novel.
This is by far the best movie released in 2021 and will certainly be nominated for a slew of awards including the Oscar for best picture. My wife had not seen the Lynch movie or knew the story but was able to follow it with a little filling in from me.
The choices that Villenueve made were stunning and showed his understanding of the original story of political intrigue and the evolution of a savior. The cast was outstanding and the sound and score were especially effective in conveying the power of the desert sandworms.
The ending point was a natural conclusion where Paul has been tested and accepted his destiny to lead the Fremen against the Harkonen and the Emperor. It corresponds to the same point in “The Matrix” where Neo realizes he is “the One” and must lead the battle against the machine world. Warner Bros is very positive on the movie and will certainly green light the next installment of this franchise.
saw it last night. not woke. but also not very exciting or interesting. the big problem is that no one is allowed to care even a little bit about the fate of any of characters—either because the character is not likeable or because the character’s fate is inevitable—so no drama.
Nitpicking time - to ask " ... of all time" would require prophetic power. A better to query would be "What is the best Sci-Fi film to date?"
I still love "Forbidden Planet" (1956) for very good prognostication, special effects, story telling and acting. Second would probably be "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope" (1977), for the sheer story telling, realism in seeing dirt and wear, and the FUN of it! I came out of the theater and found myself driving my Datsun like a TIE Fighter! (Lucky no blue lights!)
As for DUNE, I haven't seen the new one but I've seen the previous two iterations! The novel is hard to do as a movie. I've gone back to watch both previous attempts and each shows good effort but the central character of the book is Arrakis, the planet, and how deadly it is! A movie has to show the actor's faces but doing so, by the book, outside, would be fatal in short time. Just like having lights in space helmets, movie making has its own requirements. I will wait for both parts before I see the new effort.
There are some subtle hints in the earlier dialogue by Paul that Liet-Kynes had a child with a Freman warrior who died in battle. This child is Chani.
Wow, what an in-depth reply. Thanks.
My reply to my own question would be quite brief.
The original “Total Recall” with Arnold.
pfl
I put “Arrival” in my Amazon queue. Thanks for the recommendation.
Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho, supreme Ginaz swordmaster, battle commander and all around trainer and confident does not cut it.
Idaho was whip thin and agile. Not beefy and definitely not a smart alek.
I plan on watching Dune on HboMax as soon as I get done watching the many saints of Newark.
Haven’t seen it yet. Hope it isn’t. I wasn’t going to,watch the joker movie because I thought it woild be all wokeism, and wasn’t gonna pay mo ey for it if it was, but it quickly came out on TV, and I watched some out of curiosity, and it was actual,y pretty good, I was surprised. Glad they didn’t ruin it with their usual Hollywood nonsense. Hope dune is the same
I liked Starship Troopers.
It’s part 1 and follows the original book in the directors own way.
Part 2 will depend on how will part 1 does financially.
Avid fan of the Dune series. I think Herbert was brilliant. This movie was anything but a credit to the author and series. The Children of Dune series almost got things right. Frankly the universe encompassed by Dune is too big for a movie. I mean a whole move devoted to the Bene Gesserit (sp) would be cool. They were masters of politics, religion, subtlety, manipulation, so dang cool. This movie did nothing to show this. A whole movie devoted to Mentats would also be cool. Logical yet intuitive people with amazing processing skills. Think Spock or Vulcans. This movie failed to explore the mind of a Mentat. And then we have the Kwizachz Haderach - all places at one time ... etc...
I think a movie devoted to each might work.
And the idea of ancestral genetic memory and the abilities conferred on the Bene and on the Kwizachz ... so cool.
Herbert dealt with ecological, political, social, religions, economic, and other issues which have absolutely played out in our real world over the course of his life and probably throughout history as the themes are enduring.
Yes I am obviously a fan and would recommend reading the books. Herbert’s Universe is to big for a 2 hour movie. Finally this newest movie showing people with knives and swords running after and/or toward space ships was ridiculous - the movie lost all credibility. Yes, I get the shield v. whatever laser and resulting nuke explosion but no this just does not work.
Kuddos on the one on one knife scenes .. really well done in this movie. They got something almost perfect.
As for best sci fi movie, I’ll go series, “Fringe”. I think that counts.
It felt like I had already seen it, but this time it ended halfway through. It was okay.
Truth, that brute was not our Duncan!
Cool. Thanks for that. Food for thought.
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