Posted on 10/22/2021 6:41:39 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
An assistant director on the set of the film Rust—at the Bonanza Creek Ranch in Santa Fe County—retrieved a “prop gun” from a rolling cart and handed it to one of America’s best-known actors on Thursday afternoon.
“Cold gun,” the assistant director shouted.
Moments later, Alec Baldwin fired a shot that struck cinematographer Halyna Hutchins in the chest and director Joel Souza in the shoulder.
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Magistrate Judge John Rysanek signed off on Cano’s request early Friday morning to gather film, video and cameras; live and prop weapons and ammunition, plus documentation of ownership of weapons and ammunition; clothing worn by Baldwin and others at the time of the shooting (which may have been splattered with blood, given the “close proximity” in which the shooting took place); computer equipment used to record and store video, plus cellphones of people present
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Not a single thread on that guy that died in the Florida swamp. The one traveling the country with his now-dead fiancé.
An even earlier movie about something like this was THE DEATH KISS(1932) with Bela Lugosi.
Makes sense.
Wow. Movie reference to something even earlier than mine. That happens very few times. I’m usually the guy living in the past here.
What is exactly a shooting accident when one has a finger on a trigger & gun pointed?
Yes you have. Whenever someone says something to Joe Biden.
Oh, wait, you mean the gun ones.
“Not a single thread on that guy that died in the Florida swamp.”
At least three.
The SeeBS Evening “News” aired a story about the shooting on Friday night, with footage of the movie set in New Mexico included.
Systemic failure by ignorant anti-gunners. For me, Baldwin was the last person with the responsibility to check the weapon since he was the one using it. None of us “little people” could use the “I didn’t know it was loaded” defense.
Hope yer good, T_S.
Nobody that I’ve read has ventured forth with even ONE theory on WHY “LIVE” ammo was even on the SET much less put in one of the guns.
It really does suggest “intent” on someone’s part and “motive”.
You don’t need “LIVE” ammo on a movie set, period. Well, if your in Taliban territory maybe so.
“... Alec Baldwin was told weapon was safe to use”
...and is such a rabid anti-gun nutbar that he didn’t grasp that it was HIS responsibility, nor did he know how, to verify that absolutely for himself as he took possession of the weapon.
Guy’s guilty of innocent blood.
Idiot or Innocent, he effed up hard.
This wasn’t an accidental shooting, it was a negligent shooting. The barrel of that revolver should never have been pointed at a human being. But the four basic rules of firearms safety are for the little people, not arrogant pieces of excrement like Alec Baldwin.
Here are the US Marines gun safety rules:
1. Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
2. Never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.
3. Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you’re ready to fire.
4. Keep the weapon on “safe” until you intend to fire.
They are memorized by the Marines. If Baldwin had done any of them nobody would have died or gotten hurt.
Adam Baldwin Calls for Alec Baldwin to be Prosecuted to the ‘Fullest Extent of the Law’
https://mediarightnews.com/adam-baldwin-calls-for-alec-baldwin-to-be-prosecuted-to-the-fullest-extent-of-the-law/
First of all, “Adam is reportedly a distant relative of the Baldwin brothers.”
That being said, “Alec Baldwin is anti-gun, anti-trump and anti-cop. Now that he has ‘accidentally’ shot others himself, some of his old tweets seem to many in very bad taste and in the opinion of some, could be filed under tweets that didn’t age well.”
6-14-2018
So ... when the plot stumbles or collapses, just shoot someone. Correct?
9/22/17
I wonder how it must feel to wrongfully kill someone .....
[shares an article with a video of an officer-involved shooting from Huntington Beach, CA]
Hot gun, cold gun, bring along the demijohn.
For cartridge guns, this is true. For black powder cap and ball revolvers, forget everything you know about cartridge guns.
For cap and ball revolvers, there is no case. The gun is loaded with loose black powder and a lead ball is forced into the chamber of the cylinder. After the ball is loaded, common practice was to fill the room left in the chamber in front of the ball with grease to prevent chain fires.
For a simulated shot, such as on a movie set there were no commercial blanks. I suspect that one would just put the powder in and use a felt or paper wad to hold the powder in place without having a real projectile. BUT, the wad would be coated with grease to prevent chain fires again.
So, there would be no visual distinction between a "blank" round and one loaded with a real ball. The business end of the cylinder would have chambers which were packed with grease, and they would look exactly the same in both cases.
Now comes a more interesting fact. It is extremely difficult to unload a cap and ball revolver -- without very special tools and a lot of time it is much easier to just fire the gun to unload it. Remember, there is no cartridge and the back of the chamber is nearly completely closed except for a small hole in the nipple for ignition.
These days, if it is necessary to unload a cap and ball revolver the usual practice is to remove the nipple, shake as much or the powder as possible out of the threaded hole, and screw in a grease fitting. Then one pumps the chamber full of grease from an automotive grease gun, forcing the ball out the front of the chamber. This is a very uncommon practice.
Another fact is that loading such a gun is usually a time-consuming proposition and it was very common to have a spare, loaded cylinder. Changing cylinders was a much faster way to get back in action than reloading. Guns were frequently sold with a spare cylinder, and extra cylinders were readily available and easy to change out in seconds.
Given the union strife over firearm safety, I would not be quick to blame either Baldwin or the armorer. A loaded cylinder would be visually exactly the same as one with blanks, and could be changed out in seconds. While I doubt there was any intent to kill, this would emphasize safety concerns and send a message to the non-union workers. Sabotage is a definite possibility.
I’d bet the pistol was a cartridge conversion job. Black powder is too smoky for most indoor cinematography, I think.
Target practice in their time off. Ill-advised, but if it wasn’t a malicious act, it was a stupid accident.
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