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The first bitcoin futures ETF in the U.S. is set to begin trading in the week ahead (Sort of)
CNBC ^ | October 15, 2021 | Jesse Pound

Posted on 10/17/2021 11:14:49 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Key Points

The ProShares Bitcoin Strategy ETF, which will give exposure to bitcoin futures contracts but not the spot market, will trade under the ticker “BITO.” The Securities and Exchange Commission had not formally approved the creation of bitcoin futures ETF as of Friday afternoon and the agency may never make a formal declaration of approval for it. The proposed date for the listing is Monday, according to the new filing, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s when it will begin trading. That could come later in the week.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bitcoin; etf
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1 posted on 10/17/2021 11:14:49 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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2 posted on 10/17/2021 11:15:38 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That’s not good. That’ll bring government, bankers and banking regulations.


3 posted on 10/17/2021 11:25:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
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4 posted on 10/17/2021 11:28:16 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: DesertRhino

Agree! A real mixed bag there.


5 posted on 10/17/2021 11:29:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: DesertRhino

We already have all that. Banks are getting into the custodian business, and crypto exchanges are conforming to KYC and tax reporting on transactions.

The effect I see as most likely is on exchange rate (price) from day-to-day, as the trading in futures affects/distorts the spot price inevitably.


6 posted on 10/17/2021 11:58:13 AM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

question: can ETF funds change value during the execution?


7 posted on 10/17/2021 12:18:14 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

Chode, not sure what you mean by during the transaction?


8 posted on 10/17/2021 12:51:32 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: Chode
question: can ETF funds change value during the execution?

Yes, if you are not using limit orders. This won't be like the forex spot market where you can have instantaneous execution on the price displayed on your chart. I would assume that this EFT will be indexed in the same way QQQ is, thus at some point in the day there will be an adjustment of holdings so that the correct percentage of each crypto currency is maintained.

9 posted on 10/17/2021 2:06:50 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("Goats are like mushrooms. Because if you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters." - Joe Biden)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Quick - in three sentences explain what a Bitcoin is that the average person can understand.


10 posted on 10/17/2021 2:23:10 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: ConservativeInPA

thank you, that was exactly what i was asking


11 posted on 10/17/2021 3:06:04 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: oldbill
Explain Bitcoin Like I’m Five
12 posted on 10/17/2021 4:25:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: oldbill
After you read the previous post, here is a summary sentence...

"Bitcoin (₿) is a digital and global money system cryptocurrency. It allows people to send or receive money across the internet, even to someone they don't know or don't trust. It is the first of its kind technology that allows the transfer of digital scarcity across the internet without needing a third party."

13 posted on 10/17/2021 4:29:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: ConservativeInPA
This won't be like the forex spot market where you can have instantaneous execution on the price displayed on your chart.

Come you should have enough trading experience to not post something like that. Try trading during fast market conditions, let's say during the monthly unemployment report Friday @ 8:30 and see how true that is. Your quote can be 50-100 ticks away from your execution price. On forex spot often the other side is a money center forex desk and so those quotes are a little bit sleepier but never, ever count on that. Recipe for disaster.

14 posted on 10/17/2021 4:52:37 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary

Yes, that is built-in. I was just addressing what you see quoted and the result of the trade when when you press the button.


15 posted on 10/17/2021 5:07:04 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("Goats are like mushrooms. Because if you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters." - Joe Biden)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Utterly meaningless and incomprehensible.
The typical response one gets fro bitcoin proponents.
One could say the same thing as your definition about Western Union money orders.


16 posted on 10/17/2021 9:07:37 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

You’re still at this, huh? You were given plenty of answers and resources to find still more answers in the other thread where you did this. With all due respect, there is plenty of information out there.


17 posted on 10/17/2021 9:07:50 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: Bones75

So, genius, come up with a simple description of this nonsensical bitcoin.

Better yet, put all your money in bitcoins - all of it - if it’s so wonderful.
No wallet, no cash, no credit cards - just bitcoins.


18 posted on 10/17/2021 9:15:08 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

Western union does not make their ledger available to you.

They cannot send money directly to a recipient - only to their offices.

They charge far more than a crypto transaction.

But if you are satisfied with western union, You should stick with it.


19 posted on 10/17/2021 9:40:58 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: oldbill

“Better yet, put all your money in bitcoins - all of it - if it’s so wonderful.
No wallet, no cash, no credit cards - just bitcoins.”

Nonsense, that’s a straw man argument Why on earth would anyone do that with any investment? Would you advise anyone put all their money into a single stock?

Why do you have such an axe to grind? If it’s not your thing, that’s fine. Don’t get involved. Nobody is forcing you.


20 posted on 10/17/2021 9:51:52 PM PDT by Bones75
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