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Doctors grow frustrated over COVID-19 denial, misinformation
apnews.com ^ | October 4, 2021 | HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH

Posted on 10/04/2021 7:14:53 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

The COVID-19 patient’s health was deteriorating quickly at a Michigan hospital, but he was having none of the doctor’s diagnosis. Despite dangerously low oxygen levels, the unvaccinated man didn’t think he was that sick and got so irate over a hospital policy forbidding his wife from being at his bedside that he threatened to walk out of the building.

Dr. Matthew Trunsky didn’t hold back in his response: “You are welcome to leave, but you will be dead before you get to your car,’” he said.

Such exchanges have become all-too-common for medical workers who are growing weary of COVID-19 denial and misinformation that have made it exasperating to treat unvaccinated patients during the delta-driven surge.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 1getvaccinated; 2justliketrump; 3thankyoutrump; antivaxfearpers; apfakenews; apfearporn; bidenvaccine; fakenews; lyingpoliticians; matthewtrunsky; nottrumpvaccine; quacktthewtrunsky; trumpvaccine; vaxxquaxx; vaxxtroll
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To: kiryandil

Definitely. I remember him rambling in confusion with the grease stain under his nose... lol


141 posted on 10/04/2021 11:37:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mom MD
It is not effective in the hospitalized patients i deal with. If i believed it was effective I would use it. Same with hcq. There has not been one randomized double blind study showing it’s effectiveness in hospitalized patients - not even close.

That’s because it’s being tried way too late, when the patients are in such bad condition that they need to be hospitalized.

That’s a classic example of a study designed to fail..

It’s supposed to be administered early on in the illness to prevent the disease progressing and getting to the point of hospitalization.

It’s to prevent viral replication when given with zinc, which has known anti-viral properties, and Ivermectin and HCQ have never been claimed to reverse organ damage from letting the disease progress as the medical community did with its *Go home and do nothing but rest and don’t come back until you are in critical condition* protocol.

Nor has it been claimed that it can deal with bacterial pneumonia.

Giving it that late in the inflammatory stage of the illness, which is not when and where it’s effective, does not prove in the least that it doesn’t work.

Do you wait until a patient is septic before trying some amoxicillin and then claim *See, amoxicillin doesn’t work against bacterial infections*?

Sheesh…..

142 posted on 10/04/2021 11:42:36 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: ladyjane
Tell me about the ignorance of physicians. Few of them read the literature. A while back I was telling my guy about a recent study. He hadn’t read it and told me I was wrong. Two years later the topic came up and he claimed he had told me about the study.

I’ve had the same experience.

143 posted on 10/04/2021 11:43:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: BobL

He should tell that to India and Japan that said Ivermectin does work.

Both countries ended all the Covid 19 restrictions and credit Ivermectin.

Time to get a new doctor. He must be making a lot of money pushing the clot shots?


144 posted on 10/05/2021 12:03:03 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Mom MD

What studies were done showing that the vaxx works?

I can call myself Astronaut Viking. Doesn’t make me one or both. As a matter of fact I am changing my name to Astronaut Viking and I will tell everyone about space and conquest and they will have to believe me because I said so.


145 posted on 10/05/2021 12:52:07 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Cornpop was a good dude.)
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To: gas_dr

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146 posted on 10/05/2021 1:21:39 AM PDT by MagnoliaB ( You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you will find you get what you need.)
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To: TexasGurl24

Berlin_Freeper is the biggest leftist propagandist on freerepublic, although there are many other leftist plants here that do the same thing.


147 posted on 10/05/2021 1:52:29 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: gas_dr

Any wise person can tell you ‘educated’ doesn’t mean right or even smart. It just means a head has been filled with information that may or may not be true.

Being educated doesn’t deprive a person of an opinion either. So one opinion is as valid as another when weighed against competing evidence that states the opposite of one’s opinion.


148 posted on 10/05/2021 2:13:45 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a mental illness wrapped in a perverse ideology resulting in insanity.)
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To: TTFX
He is too stupid to make an argument, so that’s the best he can come up with. And he is weirdly obsessed with the topic.

This obsession reminds me of another Freeper who has an obsession against Pit Bull dogs. She was probably bit or something else by one that had been mistreated so she figured all Pitties were bad. Most bully breed dogs do have a certain instinct to protect their people and pack.

Anyway this OP is the exact same way with this vaxx that isn't really a vaxx. So much evidence contrary to his opinion yet people with an obsession can't/won't see it.

149 posted on 10/05/2021 2:18:53 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a mental illness wrapped in a perverse ideology resulting in insanity.)
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To: TexasGurl24
Your precious AssPress claims that all the antibodies from natural immunity go away after 90 days.

From what I understand the natural immunity from having had the disease and recovered will last 10-20 years. Maybe for life. The vaxx, that actually lowers immunity to everything, including the virus, lasts for a few months then gets less.

The best argument the pro-vaxxers have is that it lessens the symptoms enough to keep people out of the hospital which we know is pure hogwash. I guess when vaxxed people die at home for various adverse reaction they were kept out of the hospital. Such is the logic being used by the CDC, NIH, and this DC cartel today.

150 posted on 10/05/2021 2:25:20 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a mental illness wrapped in a perverse ideology resulting in insanity.)
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To: fatman6502002; All
Berlin_Freeper is the biggest leftist propagandist on freerepublic, although there are many other leftist plants here that do the same thing.
fatchild6502002, put some ice on that Lib butt-hurt you suffer from.
151 posted on 10/05/2021 2:32:13 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (President Trump: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.")
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To: Mom MD; pangaea6

Mom MD, you said that you don’t use ivermectin in the hospital setting. There have been many accounts of people being given Ivermectin while in the hospital (some even after their family getting a court order to do so) and then walking out recovered. I can’t understand why you are against trying it, just in case it might work, what harm would it do to try?

Also, and possibly even more important question is…. As an MD, do you treat any patients outside of the hospital setting? And if so, do you give them Ivermectin? Do you not think that if Covid patients were being treated before they get to hospitalization stage, then they would have a better recovery rate. Since March 2020 our doctors have been telling us to not call them, stay home and isolate and go to the ER when you can’t breath. Is it any wonder that we have had to in desperation research and try to self medicate?


152 posted on 10/05/2021 3:26:34 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; gas_dr
” Which one (or all) of these uneducated antivaxxers needs to step aside for you, gas_dr? Dr Robert Malone? Dr Peter McCullough? Geert Vanden Bosch? Dr Michael Yeardon? Dr Luc Montagnier? Dr Ryan Cole? Dr. Vladimir Zelenko? Dr Richard Fleming?“

Jan, you win the award for this thread. Well said, but I doubt that the gas_dr will reply, he probably doesn’t know anything about this list of real Covid doctors.

153 posted on 10/05/2021 3:41:32 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: kiryandil

What’s interesting is that NONE of them will answer the question - “why not just let the ‘rubes’ buy da horsepaste pills?”


Medicine is highly regulated by the govenrnment. There are good doctors, but many are just like government bureaucrats. I don’t even bother asking them questions.


154 posted on 10/05/2021 5:14:30 AM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: caww

Oddly enough this person is very scientifically oriented


One type of scientifically oriented just does what others who seem to know things advise.

Other type of scientifically oriented knows the argument for a treatment and read them in primary sources.


155 posted on 10/05/2021 5:18:51 AM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Boomer

So one opinion is as valid as another when weighed against competing evidence that states the opposite of one’s opinion.


That’s not what he is here for. He is here to hear people say: You’re a doctor, of course you’re right.


156 posted on 10/05/2021 5:24:24 AM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Some day our grand children will be told stories about the time in America when doctors practiced medicine, before they became politicians.


157 posted on 10/05/2021 5:31:38 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Yep, like these:

COVID Patient in Coma Gets Ivermectin After Court Order
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210506/covid-patient-in-coma-gets-ivermectin-after-court-order - Her daughter has since reported that her mom is now recovering at home - https://twitter.com/desifype/status/1411114705092030465

After judge orders hospital to use experimental Covid-19 treatment, woman recovers
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/after-judge-orders-hospital-to-use-experimental-covid-19-treatment-woman-recovers/article_a9eb315c-5694-11eb-aac5-53b541448755.html

Ivermectin Wins in Court Again: For Human Rights (story details 3 patients who came off a ventilator after starting ivermectin)
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/ivermectin-wins-in-court-again-for-human-rights/article_98d26958-a13a-11eb-a698-37c06f632875.html

Court orders Rochester General to give experimental COVID treatment to patient (improvement within 12 hours)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/court-orders-rochester-general-to-give-experimental-covid-treatment-to-patient/ar-BB1d4Ax4

Houston Hospital Chief of Medical Staff Successfully Used Ivermectin to Treat COVID Patients
https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/08/31/houston-hospital-chief-of-medical-staff-successfully-used-ivermectin-to-treat-covid-patients/

Ivermectin use has nearly eradicated Covid in Utter Pradesh, India

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout-—part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html


158 posted on 10/05/2021 5:34:49 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: MayflowerMadam

wonder if a doctor would take his car to a repair shop that “practiced mechanics”...


159 posted on 10/05/2021 5:35:37 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I like my propaganda mixed with a healthy dose of antagonism.


160 posted on 10/05/2021 5:57:01 AM PDT by Theophilus (Dems fear fear. Christians fear God. )
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