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New Mexico health officials link misuse of ivermectin to two Covid-19 deaths
New York Times via MSN ^ | 9/26/21 | Alyssa Lukpat

Posted on 09/26/2021 6:27:43 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

Dr. David R. Scrase is a liar.


41 posted on 09/26/2021 8:39:44 PM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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To: kiryandil

...and we’re developing our own drug which does the same thing, but with which we can make billion$.


42 posted on 09/26/2021 10:32:00 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: gas_dr

You would be laughed out of a medical conference in India.


43 posted on 09/26/2021 10:33:08 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: gas_dr

Small sample size, but zero deaths out of 84 elderly nursing home patients (mean age 85) using Antihistamines and azithromycin. All but 3 seroconverted. Something else to be ignored.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7833340/#!po=34.9057

Pulm Pharmacol Ther. 2021 Apr; 67: 101989.
Published online 2021 Jan 16. doi: 10.1016/j.pupt.2021.101989
PMCID: PMC7833340
PMID: 33465426
Antihistamines and azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19 on primary health care – A retrospective observational study in elderly patients
Juan Ignacio Morán Blanco,a,b Judith A. Alvarenga Bonilla,a,b Sakae Homma,c Kazuo Suzuki,d Philip Fremont-Smith,e and Karina Villar Gómez de las Herasf,∗

Background
Between March and April 2020, 84 elderly patients with suspected COVID-19 living in two nursing homes of Yepes, Toledo (Spain) were treated early with antihistamines (dexchlorpheniramine, cetirizine or loratadine), adding azithromycin in the 25 symptomatic cases. The outcomes are retrospectively reported. The primary endpoint is the fatality rate of COVID-19. The secondary endpoints are the hospital and ICU admission rates. Endpoints were compared with the official Spanish rates for the elderly. The mean age of our population was 85 and 48% were over 80 years old. No hospital admissions, deaths, nor adverse drug effects were reported in our patient population. By the end of June, 100% of the residents had positive serology for COVID-19. Although clinical trials are needed to determine the efficacy of both drugs in the treatment of COVID-19, this analysis suggests that primary care diagnosis and treatment with antihistamines, plus azithromycin in selected cases, may treat COVID-19 and prevent progression to severe disease in elderly patients.


44 posted on 09/27/2021 12:00:18 AM PDT by zek157
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To: Libloather

At this point I think results are obvious.

Can’t find horse paste in stock anywhere as it is all sold. But can only site 2 problem cases??

Another itsy bitsy problem with the narrative: college football stadiums have been full with non-mask wearers for 4 weeks. Baseball stadiums full. NFL stadiums crowded.

But regardless seems the covid is dying, rather than resurging.


45 posted on 09/27/2021 12:43:05 AM PDT by JParris
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To: Libloather

Those seeking justification as to not
taking a drug that’s proven effective
against a lab created disease only need
look at who’s in charge. You can lead
a horse to water....
Our governor is a lackey in step with
those who stole the presidential
election. She’s as brain dead as Biden.


46 posted on 09/27/2021 1:47:44 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: gas_dr

How does it feel knowing you’ve sold your soul to your communist overlords?

It makes sense that they would embed a few of their agitprop flunkies in forums like FR. But you might go farther if you were a little more subtle.


47 posted on 09/27/2021 2:13:06 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (“If TPTB can force you to take a shot, what CAN'T they force you to take?” - T. Carlson (paraphrased)
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To: gas_dr

Wrong, I have a group who has taken people off their death beds with comorbidities like diabetes and cancer and cured them with Ivermectin and zinc/vitamins. Amazing a doctor would have zero curiosity about a proven cure.


48 posted on 09/27/2021 5:25:56 AM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: roving

“With every post, you prove more and more you are no doctor.”

I agree with your assessment of gas_dr. Is “gas” short for gastrointestinal or really just gaslighting?


49 posted on 09/27/2021 10:04:39 AM PDT by dhuls (better late than never)
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To: bray

Hmmmm
You have a group… ok
Funny. No case reports in the literature of people on their death beds with ivermectin cures. You either don’t understand what death bed means or you are making your statement up in its entirety

There is no proven cure. If there were it would mean there is either no more disease or literally every physician and nurse is in on a conspiracy.

The bottom line is either you have no grasp of medicine or no grasp of logic. You are quite plainly lying through your teeth.


50 posted on 09/27/2021 11:56:53 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: MayflowerMadam

I’ve sold myself out to communist overlords by actually contradicting with actual data and observation that which you only read because you obviously do not practice clinical medicine.

I can imagine that in the face of uninspired group think with just a touch of paranoia and conspiracy thrown in and mingled with an absence of understanding of basic biology and chemistry let alone data interpretation which you clearly subscribe to, actual relevant observation and data would be scary.

But the fact remains…no matter how many bizarre attacks you make such as me being a communist plant (I guess I have been a plant for all twenty years I have been on Free Republic) you are still misguided and incorrect.

Have a pleasant day.


51 posted on 09/27/2021 12:02:21 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

Well, at least you admit what you are and who you are, Komrad Doktor.


52 posted on 09/27/2021 12:04:35 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (“If TPTB can force you to take a shot, what CAN'T they force you to take?” - T. Carlson (paraphrased)
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To: gas_dr

Please explain why you have no curiosity about Ivermectin and zinc curing 95% of an Indian state of 200 million? Now go ahead and call me another name to avoid your obvious bias.


53 posted on 09/27/2021 12:28:05 PM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: MayflowerMadam

So you also have no sense of sarcasm.
There is little point attempting to educate you as you choose to be willfully ignorant. But hey, you do a great job cutting and pasting comments that you do not understand.


54 posted on 09/27/2021 1:44:42 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

So you do diagnosis without knowing anything about the patient. What kind of doctor are you. These three would be dead if not for the Ivermectin and zinc.

The entire medical system is being forced to follow the Biden dictates and you know it. You are not a real doctor but some DNC hack and it is obvious.

So fake dr explain how Ivermectin cured the state of Uttar Pardish if it doesn’t work?


55 posted on 09/28/2021 5:07:04 AM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: bray

There is so much out there it is mind boggling anyone in a field of science wouldn’t at least be curious:

Research (including hospital research) https://ivmmeta.com/

COVID Patient in Coma Gets Ivermectin After Court Order
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210506/covid-patient-in-coma-gets-ivermectin-after-court-order - Her daughter has since reported that her mom is now recovering at home - https://twitter.com/desifype/status/1411114705092030465

After judge orders hospital to use experimental Covid-19 treatment, woman recovers
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/after-judge-orders-hospital-to-use-experimental-covid-19-treatment-woman-recovers/article_a9eb315c-5694-11eb-aac5-53b541448755.html

Ivermectin Wins in Court Again: For Human Rights (story details 3 patients who came off a ventilator after starting ivermectin)
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/ivermectin-wins-in-court-again-for-human-rights/article_98d26958-a13a-11eb-a698-37c06f632875.html

Court orders Rochester General to give experimental COVID treatment to patient (improvement within 12 hours)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/court-orders-rochester-general-to-give-experimental-covid-treatment-to-patient/ar-BB1d4Ax4

Houston Hospital Chief of Medical Staff Successfully Used Ivermectin to Treat COVID Patients
https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/08/31/houston-hospital-chief-of-medical-staff-successfully-used-ivermectin-to-treat-covid-patients/

The CDC has almost a cult following among many doctors in regards to Covid. Most of treatments they are recommending are failing miserably, except monoclonals, but they are not 100% either. You have to wonder what drives this amazing lack of scientific curiosity. Not only will they discount other treatments that are showing promise, they say we are too stupid to understand the research.


56 posted on 09/28/2021 5:32:00 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Everything the DNC touches is corrupted. The medical industry is being run by politicians like our Governor who has ordered no use of HDQ or IVM simply because Trump said there was hopeful results in them.

This fake dr knows it and denies it to carry the Biden water.


57 posted on 09/28/2021 5:49:47 AM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: gas_dr
The problem is that people seem to confuse safe with efficacious.

So YOU are willing to KILL PEOPLE by withholding a drug that is safe and effective in treating C-19.

Off label use of drugs is between the doctor and the patient. If the patient and doctor have done even a few minutes of research, they BOTH know that ivermectin SEEMS to be very effective in preventing and even stopping C-19 infections.

This is MUCH BETTER than Fraud Fauci's plan of get tested, go home until your lips turn blue then come back to the ER when you have trouble breathing. The idiots with medical degrees blocked HCQ+Zn and now they want to prevent the masses from knowing that IVM is a home run too.

The key is EARLY TREATMENT, not waiting until you have trouble breathing.


58 posted on 09/28/2021 7:38:02 AM PDT by politicianslie (There was no cover-up, the election was not stolen. Biden won=NO ONE CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING)
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To: politicianslie

Actually the best early treatment is called monoclonal antibodies. As I have said all along why screw around with off label and marginal treatments when you can get a directed treatment specific to the disease?

When someone honestly answers that question, it would be worth a conversation. Instead all we do is deflect.


59 posted on 09/28/2021 9:29:02 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr; politicianslie; bray; MayflowerMadam
Actually the best early treatment is called monoclonal antibodies. As I have said all along why screw around with off label and marginal treatments when you can get a directed treatment specific to the disease?

You mean the treatment that Biden's puppeteers are now rationing to the states of his political enemies? LOLOL!!

It's not available to ALL - and that was a political decision, just like the political decisions to cut off access to HCQ, Ivermectin and NAC.

60 posted on 09/28/2021 9:36:41 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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