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What's Your Actual Risk of Dying From COVID?
PJ Media ^ | 09/22/2021 | Matt Margolis

Posted on 09/22/2021 8:38:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Americans are misinformed about the risks of COVID. That’s a fact.

Earlier this year, a Franklin Templeton/Gallup study found that when people were asked what “percentage of people who have been infected by the coronavirus needed to be hospitalized,” more than a third, 35 percent, said the risk was 50 percent. It’s actually somewhere between 1 and 5 percent. As you might expect, political affiliation influences that perception. “Democrats were much more likely to overestimate the harms of COVID-19, according to the Franklin Templeton/Gallup study, with 41% believing over half of coronavirus patients would require hospitalizations, compared to 28% of Republicans.” Republicans were also more likely to correctly estimate risk.

A recent Rasmussen Reports survey also found that Democrats are more likely than Republicans to overestimate the mortality risks of COVID. According to the survey, “Democrats are significantly more likely than other Americans to overestimate the death risk from COVID-19. Twenty-eight percent (28%) of Democrats think more than 10% of people diagnosed with COVID-19 have died from the disease – more than five times the actual mortality rate. Just 14% of Republicans and the unaffiliated believe the COVID-19 mortality rate is over 10%.” The reason for this is likely tied to media consumption, as the survey found that “More viewers of Newsmax (40%) and Fox News (34%) correctly estimated the COVID-19 mortality rate than viewers of CNN (22%) or MSNBC (24%).”

So, what’s the actual mortality rate? What is your risk of dying from COVID? Well, there are a lot of factors, such as comorbidities and vaccination status, but one thing that has been very clear, even from the earliest days of the pandemic, is that this disease affects the older population more than the younger population.


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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid; death; lethality; risk
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To: SeekAndFind
Because death from covid is death with no other conditions causing the death. It was from covid alone. Big difference. Someone who dies with covid has comorbidities and are already in a weakened state.
21 posted on 09/22/2021 9:31:27 PM PDT by LibertyWoman (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind
Basically 0% chance if on Ivermectin.

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Population 241 million.


22 posted on 09/22/2021 9:33:50 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: SeekAndFind

Simply because just about all the figures that are published are just raw numbers. You have to work hard to find anything that smacks of a rate per million, hundred thousand, thousand etc.

The sheeple have little concept of the simple math of it that makes the raw numbers meaningful.

Even at my advanced age and with some medical problems my risk of dying or even hospitalization is less than the chance of dying or being hurt in a bicycle accident and I don’t even own a bicycle.

I remain unapologetically and endlessly unjabbed.


23 posted on 09/22/2021 9:55:30 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Karl Spooner
0% chance in Delhi if on Ivermectin, too. Population 30 million. Plus you can still be a blood donor too, unlike the vaxxed.

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24 posted on 09/22/2021 9:57:59 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Bob434
Good question.

It doesn't make sense.

25 posted on 09/22/2021 10:22:51 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: All

I didn’t use a calculator, but the total death count in the table doesn’t look like it adds to 699K dead. Maybe. Looks low.


26 posted on 09/22/2021 10:57:19 PM PDT by Owen
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To: walkingdead

Also, the vaxxes are useless once you are sick with Covid. That’s just another reason that not prophylactically treating sick people is criminal. Once their sick is no time to be focused on the vax.

And when you recover, you then don’t need it.


27 posted on 09/23/2021 1:58:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

Maybe helpful is if people get the flu shot....who might not have before covid.


28 posted on 09/23/2021 2:10:51 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Seeing those figures, I am more confident that my infection from COVID-19-Delta will not be a trip to the morgue. However, a trip to the hospital may be bad enough. Does anyone know what a one month stay in the hospital, fighting for ones life on a ventilator will cost?

People poo poo the low death rate but exhibit a kind of naivety about the outcome. For instance, I just became aware of Covid victims so desperate to stay alive, they are having lung transplants! Imagine what that will cost! Of course, there are other long-term side-effects that also seem to slip down the rat-hole of conversation.


29 posted on 09/23/2021 2:36:58 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Karl Spooner

Where did you get that graph? That is not what I see at Worldometer. However, I do see a real decline in daily new cases. Florida has made an incredible turn-a-round in their numbers. Texas, California and New York are doing good too.


30 posted on 09/23/2021 2:47:59 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

As a fellow motorcyclist I am far more worried about dying at the hands of my fellow motorists. Covid? Doesn’t even come close. And I’m 68.


31 posted on 09/23/2021 6:21:25 AM PDT by refermech
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To: SeekAndFind

According to this chart, my risk of dying from COVID is comparable to my risk of dying by drowning.


Those comparisons seem peculiar, and would need digging into to understand.

The chances of drowning while swimming might have a lifetime chance of 1/1219 for which reason you died if you engaged in swimming at an average rate, but it doesn’t reflect your chance of drowning while going to the grocery store.


32 posted on 09/23/2021 6:50:24 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

According to this chart, my risk of dying from COVID is comparable to my risk of dying by drowning.


Those comparisons seem peculiar, and would need digging into to understand.

The chances of drowning while swimming might have a lifetime chance of 1/1219 for which reason you died if you engaged in swimming at an average rate, but it doesn’t reflect your chance of drowning while going to the grocery store.


33 posted on 09/23/2021 6:50:51 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, let’s look at the chart and see what my risk is. I am 41 years old. Based on this chart, there have been 1,661 deaths from COVID among 41-year-olds—representing .041 percent of that population segment.

Do note that column two is not labeled “Deaths FROM COVID” but rather “Deaths WITH COVID”.

That’s a BIG difference there.

Subtle but significant.

34 posted on 09/23/2021 6:56:53 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for the charts. These charts put every thing in perspective.
:)


35 posted on 09/23/2021 7:21:55 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: LibertyWoman

Because death from covid is death with no other conditions causing the death. It was from covid alone. Big difference. Someone who dies with covid has comorbidities and are already in a weakened state.


Essentially no one dies from covid. They die from the effects covid causes. That part works just like the flu - it kills essentially no one directly.

Now as for comorbidities, that is both an important factor, and an hysterically overstated one. *Most* adults have comorbidities, and more have at least two than have none - so when you say ‘comorbidities’ in the same broad sense used there it means many ordinary people. Most of those with the comorbidities ascribed are such minor cases that those with them are undiagnosed and unknown.

That said, for the children under 12 who died last year and whose deaths were attributed to covid, ALL of them had SEVERE comorbidities, at least as severe as leukemia.


36 posted on 09/23/2021 7:31:54 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Sequoyah101

less than the chance of dying or being hurt in a bicycle accident and I don’t even own a bicycle.


For the purposes of the numbers, you own an average bicycle and ride it an average amount of time.


37 posted on 09/23/2021 7:36:37 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind
Your chart itself admits to lying.

Headsings are "Deaths *with* COVID" not Deaths *from* COVID

38 posted on 09/23/2021 7:41:33 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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There is a pretty big flaw in the entire tables concept. One cannot look at single years to evaluate risk.

The number one killer in the United States is cardiovascular disease. One in six people will die of it over a lifetime. This is about 17%.

If you divide that 17% by 78 years you got a number far less than 1% each year. If you reduce it even further and say that only the final 30 years have any significant risk oh, you are still far less than 1% per year. So if you want to make that table reasonable you probably need to multiply by several years on the presumption that the virus remains this dangerous over long periods of time.

Concluding that these numbers under 1% means you are safe would lead you to abandon any medication your doctor has advised to lessen your odds of death from heart attack. Those numbers are under 1% also


39 posted on 09/23/2021 7:44:38 AM PDT by Owen
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To: jonrick46

Of course, there are other long-term side-effects that also seem to slip down the rat-hole of conversation.


And that is a double-edged sword. For example, the vaccination appears to cause heart damage at a notable level - however COVID causes it at what appears to be a much higher rate. Since the data is obscured it is very difficult to reasonably asses, and it makes the gap between the paranoid and the dismissive encompass a huge number of people.

That’s without getting to the point that there simply is no way to know long-term effects and dangers for the specific treatments yet.


40 posted on 09/23/2021 7:45:09 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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