"Dr. Zhivago" Was On TCM Last Night

[DIRTYSECRET]

As I see it there are too many similarities to today. The Tzars were living it up while the people suffered. You had the hothead(Lara's boyfriend) who was a definite leader who took them on. Then when they took over the constant war/turmoil kept the Bolsheviks focused on their mission, like Covid and the border crisis/Afghanistan. Today the party in power can't kill and destroy like they did in the movie but the parents of Ashli Babbitt would disagree. Constant turmoil/distraction and our hope is in November, '22? I'm sure they have other plans.

[DIRTYSECRET]

Rod Steiger(Komarovsky) and Zhivago were similar only in that neither of them took sides politically-think independents. Steiger was like Clark Gable in 'Gone With The Wind'-opportunist. The weak part was MD/Zhivago passing off as a wannabe poet-a reason to be targeted. The escape was not to the west but to the Far East where the trouble eventually followed.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

One of my favorite movies back in the day...

[dfwgator]

I consider it the greatest film ever made.

[Ge0ffrey]

Dr. Zhivago is a love song to adultery.

[Migraine]

I’m w/ you gator. Greatest ever. Almost every weird situation we see in the world today can be found in that film; and I can quote it for anyone who cares to hear.

[DIRTYSECRET]

There’s more. Zhivago’s half-brother(Alec Guiness) did a very well as a believer who had his own second thoughts about where he stood when it came to his brother. The ‘Pasha’/Strelnikov character(Lara’s husband/boyfriend) got killed in a way that reminded me of the scene in the Killing Fielda’ where the commander of the labor/death camp was killed immediately after giving his son to the hero in the movie. These people eat their own. To think Russia waited 30 years before allowing the movie to be shown. We only have to wait until November, right?

[allendale]

What Paternack understood and highlighted in his book was that the Bolsheviks would have never succeeded if they did not have the financial and political support of Russia’s urban upper class elites and academics. Who by the way were ultimately killed or exiled by those very same Bolsheviks once they came to power. History repeats in modern day America as it always does.

[Buttons12]

Why would November ‘22 be any different from November ‘20 which worked out so well for Democrats?

[Utah Binger]

So was “Patton”

[dfwgator]

Yes, I’ve referenced the Comrade Kaprugina scene many times.

[SES1066]

I remember him, Dr Zhivago, returning to his family home, only to find that ‘The People’ had taken possession. A very convincing argument that freedom DOES COME from the right to hold property!

[z3n]

Naive leftists today don’t realize that they would be exchanging their dreaded capitalist robber barons for tyrannical state aristocrats. And you have the bureaucrat class that have far more power in what is inevitably increasing totalitarian state (always necessary to tighten the grips on power) and even the bureaucrats and administrators, for all their power over the people, always have to watch their back because the power class are paranoid and ruthless and fear everyone around and below them.

But hay, that’s another world. Not history. Just fiction. You know ‘we’ will get our utopia. Right?

[Slicksadick]

Can you play the balalaika?

[dfwgator]

And you think this isn't happening within our military now?



" In bourgeois terms, it was a war between the Allies and Germany. In Bolshevik terms, it was a war between the Allied and German upper classes - and which of them won was of total indifference. My task was to organize defeat, so as to hasten the onset of revolution. I enlisted under the name of Petrov. The party looked to the peasant conscript soldiers - many of whom were wearing their first real pair of boots. When the boots had worn out, they'd be ready to listen. When the time came, I was able to take three whole battalions out of the front lines with me - the best day's work I ever did. But for now, there was nothing to be done. There were too many volunteers. Most of it was mere hysteria."

[dandiegirl]

I love it too. The music is the prettiest of any movie ever made.

[BBQToadRibs2]

Loved that movie, and what a great soundtrack.

[knarf]

I see all the weird situations in the world in scripture, almost any serious cinema made before 1960 and probably every sci fi novel I've EVER read.

They really DID take 1984 and make it into a socio/political prospectus.

[DIRTYSECRET]

*Dr. Zhivago is a love song to adultery.*

Geraldine Chaplin was too ‘normal’ to be the subject of beautiful poetry. The movie was a beautiful love story. So why does it remind me of Mark Sanford who died politically. He was in love, took a big risk and lost everything.

[CTyank]

Our daughter was adopted from Russia at 2 yrs. old. You would never know - as she is a gorgeous all American girl now.

When she was little she imagined that Russia(Birobidzhan to be exact), was castles and princesses. When she got old enough, we watched this movie together and explained that this was just a story, but these events did occur.

She’s going to be 21 soon and has never had any interest in looking at the pictures of Birobidzhan that her Mom was able to capture while she was there.

[meowmeow]

I do, too. Every shot is beautifully filmed, the story is heart wrenching, and the acting superb. Great musical score. The movie usually leaves me depressed because every time I watch it I see more and more parallels to our own situation.