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In new film, director Polanski revisits the horrors of his Holocaust boyhood
Times of Israel ^ | 31 may 2021 | Afp

Posted on 09/20/2021 8:32:54 PM PDT by Cronos

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To: tet68

Yes, old folks remember this. And we also remember those who fled communism as Europeans who died on electric fences, getting shot, or the poor boat people of Vietnam and Cambodia. I remember our church helped people from Vietnam who fled communism in the 70’s. These people were so grateful and have become proud Americans. Their stories, first hand, have stuck in my mind forever. I am so happy they are Americans now. God bless the Vietnamese and God bless America!


21 posted on 09/20/2021 10:02:35 PM PDT by packagingguy (Kit)
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To: Williams

No. I saw a recent movie. Members of the Manson family broke into the wrong house. This is how it went down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RulbH4Sikc


22 posted on 09/20/2021 10:17:25 PM PDT by guido911
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To: guido911

I’m guessing you know that’s not what happened. But I did enjoy it.


23 posted on 09/20/2021 10:20:33 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Yep. Love this whole scene


24 posted on 09/20/2021 10:26:53 PM PDT by guido911
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To: Cronos; Borges

I know folks hate him here

But his childhood was excruciating and he had horrific things unfold later we all know too well..

His wife and child butchered

I’m ambiguous on him in totality


25 posted on 09/20/2021 10:29:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

My twin daughters at a young age (5th grade?) read Diary of Anne Frank. Then they both dived into the Holocaust. Tried to stay away from horrific photos and stuff, but they understood it.

They each gave a book report or poster board or something about what they had learned. It hadn’t been taught in school yet so kids would say it wasn’t true. “How could one guy (Hitler) kill 6 million people, etc.” The teacher would confirm to the kids that it was true and they would learn more about it in later grades.

BUT - the one lesson I told them about how learning this stuff is important so “you never forget”. But - people DO forget and told them (even at that young age) a little about Cambodia, Rwanda, Vietnam (the gal that cut their hair survived the aftermath), etc.


26 posted on 09/20/2021 10:29:57 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: guido911

I wish...


27 posted on 09/20/2021 10:32:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: Reeses

Well people did and do die in worldwide pandemics, it’s the nature of the beast and it doesn’t appear to care who it attacks. But I highly question the data of deaths given by countries including our own. Anything that resembles covid is often counted as such. That does not mean there’ isn’t a new virus out their doing it’s damage. But there sure as heck is a vaccine that is.


28 posted on 09/20/2021 10:37:09 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Williams

Sharon Tate was his wife for 19:months before she was stabbed 16 times in her swollen 38 weeks pregnant belly and slashed multiple times cleaving her outer skin to peel open as she was then hanged by a cord around her neck to bleed out like a pigs carcass while still alive pleading for them to stop and just kill her and not her baby....and she was a young woman too just like those kinder and gentler vipers killing her and the child brutally

And with a fork stuck in her belly as well to make some point Bernadine Dohrn later lauded

And contrary to urban legend the baby was stabbed to death too and did not die from police neglect..

I’d wager Polanski has suffered more personal tragedy than your average poster here

That is just a hunch


29 posted on 09/20/2021 10:43:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: Cronos

I’ve read some interesting ways in which the people in the concentration camps survived. Also how those lived who were hidden. And those in the Gettos ....oh there are so many stories. But they developed some stunning ways to make it through. Many of course did not even with the best effort.

When you read about the guards, both male and female you recognize their sadistic natures. Yet when on their own time gathering together you’d never give a second thought these weren’t normal people. Oblivious to their own cruelty and sadism.

It’s also interesting how the different camps were managed and the differences. I recall when I first saw photos of the Holocaust, people in mass graves etc. in a military three volume set my father had.....I was probably 7 or 8 and remembering asking my mother what those pictures of bodies were.

I admit that my interest in learning about it came after watching Shindler’s List. So moved by it I wanted to know and spent weeks and weeks researching....the more I discovered the more I was angered and hurt..... I still do.


30 posted on 09/20/2021 10:53:02 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: wardaddy
I’d wager Polanski has suffered more personal tragedy than your average poster here

So does that give him carte blanche to rape young girls? Apparently the judge didn't think so, which is why he fled the country before sentencing.

31 posted on 09/20/2021 11:01:47 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Why do scolds here always put words in people’s mouths to prove a point.

Can you simply not resist ascribing to me something I did not say.

Why did you do that...

It’s childish

Stick to what I said please

Would you like me to do that to you.


32 posted on 09/20/2021 11:06:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: wardaddy

Sorry if I offended you. In a just world nobody would be mentioning this pedo. He would be in jail or in the very least shunned. Instead people sympathize because he had a rough life. Plenty of people have rough lives without becoming criminals. And people wonder why our society has become so coarse.


33 posted on 09/20/2021 11:22:51 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Cronos

Been there, wish I could go back.

Have you been to Gdansk?


34 posted on 09/20/2021 11:55:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos

I note that Polanski was prominently featured in this documentary, which was very good.

The Invasion - The Outbreak Of World War II: The First Day (1/2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdjdUfTU8y0

Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ZwA3TyUtM


35 posted on 09/21/2021 12:01:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos

Now cover the Ukrainians during the holodomor. Focus on the Bolsheviks and who they were. I won’t hold my breathe.


36 posted on 09/21/2021 12:07:27 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback

Or what the Ukrainians did to the Poles in Volhynia during WWII.


37 posted on 09/21/2021 12:12:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; Pelham

We are more coarse and more fat.....wonder if they coincide

Less God fearing obviously

Less European

Not sure that’s it....Mexicans I know are polite

Social media has sure made folks rude and act natural and less empathy....the lattter being a complaint I have about here

Polanski like everyone I know who was in serious prison has demons preexisting before they became a criminal so he would fit in at New Folsom

I surmise .....a surmisal.....a guess....arm chair psychology 101 .....and not an excuse...

Polanski like Michael Jackson and other men ..and women I guess like Paula Poundstone

Experienced abnormal,childhoods with severe life threatening trauma like Polanski ...or weird no real childhood like he missed trauma like Jackson

And lost an ability to conduct an adult relationship with peers...

Or get stuck in a lost childhood that was not and seek sexual gratification where they feel most comfortable as in perversion with a too young but relatable partner

I’m simply trying what explains this and let’s the dark prince who speaks to all of us when he can to:get a more sympathetic audience in our enternal dialogue

Normal,men and men who reject the darkness from bad childhood dont do this....so why do others....

I mean I love women and sex but I never lusted for kids...maybe as a fifteen your old kid myself with fellow fifteen year old girls

Even today...given my brood I’m an old man surrounded at times in my home or with our small horse farm or rural community pool beautiful girls in butt cheek shirts or tiny bikinis

O course you can’t help but notice em but likewise you don’t objectify then like a pedersst would

So I guess I’m conjuring what creates such folks....we’ve always had them....I had one who worked for me...a freak....he went to Prison for. Nine years for internet behavior

Now who defends or excuses Polanski?

His elite pals .....that’s who.

I think this happened at Jack Nicholson’s house

With other folks there...I don’t know if they knew her age but I’m sure they could tell she was questionable about legal age which was 16 I think then in Kali

Don Henley had similar issues ...around same time

Hollywood is rife with this crap and has been back to Arbuckle

It could also be Polanski also embraced nihilism with his edges worn
Nietzsche paperback in his breast pocket of his tweed and simply indulged his darkest impulses

There is that....too

There is a Milo piece here somewhere on forum from a Catholic blog where Milo demonstrates how childhood trauma and abuse is a building block of what constructs an adult queer

And that in their hearts queers hate being accepted by the woke because they know they are screwed up and prefer to be viewed honestly rather than as designer pets

And that homosexual adoption is the apogee of this many faceted false construct a homosexual goes through to convince himself and the world what they do is proper and normal

Only slightly related to this topic but fascinating; I thought


38 posted on 09/21/2021 12:28:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

How much of Polanski’s account is true? He naturally dramatized events. There have been so many false claims about what the Nazis did. It should be unnecessary to create fictional events. The actual crimes should have been enough. Tales about lampshades only destroy credibility. In the modern progressive ideology Adolf Hitler plays the role of Satan. He was a piker compared to the two champions of mass murder. How many films have been made about Moa and Stalin’s deeds? Anyone responsible for starving an infant to death is a monster. There were plenty of Americans responsible for unnecessary deaths. The Morgenthau Plan has been successfully deleted from the history books. A movie was made about the Lidice massacre but it is difficult to find information on the Horni Mostenice massacre.


39 posted on 09/21/2021 12:57:17 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: packagingguy
Is this the same guy who is a suspect in the rape of a young girl? If so should be tried for what he did.

Not a suspect. Tried and convicted. Absconded before sentencing, that's why he's never returned to US soil.

40 posted on 09/21/2021 1:28:15 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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