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Vaccinated-only people don’t have antibodies to anything that is not the spike protein, so they will have fairly more issues with a newer infection than a COVID-19 survivor has.
1 posted on 09/20/2021 2:05:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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So YoU NeEd To Be VaCcInAtEd EvEn If YoU HaD It BeCaUsE MaN MaDe SpIkE MaKeS BeTtEr AnTiBoDiEs.


2 posted on 09/20/2021 2:14:45 PM PDT by Skywise
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Isn’t this why they have new flu shots every year? Be causes viruses mutate.


4 posted on 09/20/2021 2:21:08 PM PDT by bigbob
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Read the last two paragraphs.

Implications and concerns.

Stuff we knew without this study.

Nothing at all saying any variant does escape immunity conferred by vaccine or being infected.


5 posted on 09/20/2021 2:24:11 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Then shouldn’t we stop vaccinating? If the virus just mutates to get around the vaccine this will never end, and each booster will be to variants that have come and gone.
Does anyone here have technical details about medicine who can shed some light here?


6 posted on 09/20/2021 2:25:32 PM PDT by packagingguy (Kit)
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Now, all we need to do is follow the science! The science we are supposed to follow is treating us for a heart attack when what we have is a cold.

Way to go science!


10 posted on 09/20/2021 2:32:05 PM PDT by icclearly
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Isn’t this kind of how it is with the common cold?


12 posted on 09/20/2021 2:33:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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National Geographic

SCIENCE

NOT EXACTLY ROCKET SCIENCE

BY ED YONG
PUBLISHED JULY 27, 2015

Leaky Vaccines Enhance Spread of Deadlier Chicken Viruses
Over the past fifty years, Marek’s disease—an illness of fowl—has become fouler. Marek’s is caused by a highly contagious virus, related to those that cause herpes in humans. It spreads through the dust of contaminated chicken coops, and caused both paralysis and cancer. In the 1970s, new vaccines brought the disease the under control.

Over the past fifty years, Marek’s disease—an illness of fowl—has become fouler. Marek’s is caused by a highly contagious virus, related to those that cause herpes in humans. It spreads through the dust of contaminated chicken coops, and caused both paralysis and cancer. In the 1970s, new vaccines brought the disease the under control. But Marek’s didn’t go gently into that good night. Within ten years, it started evolving into more virulent strains, which now trigger more severe cancers and afflict chickens at earlier ages.

Andrew Read from Pennsylvania State University thinks that the vaccines were responsible. The Marek’s vaccine is “imperfect” or “leaky.” That is, it protects chickens from developing disease, but doesn’t stop them from becoming infected or from spreading the virus. Inadvertently, this made it easier for the most virulent strains to survive. Such strains would normally kill their hosts so quickly that they’d die out. But in an immunised flock, they can persist because their lethal nature has been neutered. That’s not a problem for vaccinated individuals. But unvaccinated birds are now in serious trouble.

(…)

Link: https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/science/article/leaky-vaccines-enhance-spread-of-deadlier-chicken-viruses


14 posted on 09/20/2021 2:45:22 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Real World Studies and Data says this is PROPAGANDA and Both should be brought before the Medical Review Board. Your Natural immune system creates antibodies for the entire virus, not just the “spike” protein.


15 posted on 09/20/2021 2:45:48 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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MAREK’S DISEASE IN CHICKENS EXPOSES TRUE DANGERS OF COVID INJECTIONS
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hL5uic3Y5Rpz/


19 posted on 09/20/2021 2:49:39 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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This is the money quote…

“That, of course, raises the concern of the virus evolving to escape the body’s main antibody response. Some antibodies should still be effective—the body makes antibodies to many parts of the virus, not only the spike protein—but the particular groups of antibodies that we saw in this study will not be as effective.”

Natural immunity has a wider array of weapons than spike protein antibodies. But guess how the vaccines were designed. They were specifically designed to target the spike proteins of the Wuhan variant. That’s it. That’s the vaccine. And that is why natural immunity is proving to be more effective against newer variants. The body’s immune system is better than a laser focused vaccine.


25 posted on 09/20/2021 2:59:30 PM PDT by Rokke
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More science fantasy. For a natural virus that is not how it works. For a lab created one, well ??? I do not know enough viral biology.

However, this sure sounds suspicious to me.


26 posted on 09/20/2021 3:04:27 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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My wife and I got Covide in March of 2020 ..... She had it very bad, I had mild symptoms, almost unnoticeable...

We just got it again about two weeks ago....she was sneezing and had very slight shortness of breath.

I was sneezing and got a huge blistery rash over my entire back and upper arms, very similar to chickenpox.

Annoying but hardly a problem for either of us...


31 posted on 09/20/2021 3:15:44 PM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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And not only that, they only have protection against the Feb. 2020 Wuhan virus spike.

I heard a doctor use an analogy to a hand. The entire virus (any virus) is your entire hand. The spike protein is your fingernails. The Covid injection just protects you against a virus with the exact 2020 Wuhan fingernail.

Against any variant, it’s useless, but it does encourage the Covid virus to mutate to ignore the spike protein “fingernails.”

Worse than useless to give it to children in Sept. 2021.


38 posted on 09/20/2021 3:47:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Ivermectin doesn’t care what virus strain it is.


44 posted on 09/20/2021 4:21:32 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. )
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Nature does not stand still. Viruses are very adept at evolving due to their huge numbers. A variant resistant to a RNA jab becomes the next wave. Not only that but a variation that actually uses the Antibody as a Trojan Horse is very much a possibility because of the advantage it would give to the virus. It's called Antibody-dependent Enhancement (ADE) and it has happened with other viruses before.
46 posted on 09/20/2021 5:07:42 PM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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Produced a d Directed by Fauci.


48 posted on 09/20/2021 5:21:06 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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Natural immunity is more than IgG immunity. There are T cells, IgM other cells. Natural immunity is 13x more effective than from vaccines.
Even if natural immunity is reduced with new variants, it’s even more pronounced for the mRNA injections


49 posted on 09/20/2021 5:22:50 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification. )
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And once again ‘modern medicine’ concedes utter idiocy about natural immunity.


52 posted on 09/20/2021 7:26:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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I’m doomed. Only fealty to Fauci and repenting for my heresy of the great and mighty Fauci will save me. Jab me Fauci. Good and hard.


54 posted on 09/20/2021 8:50:48 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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