Posted on 09/20/2021 1:28:39 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is reminding the public and health care providers that results from currently authorized SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests should not be used to evaluate a person’s level of immunity or protection from COVID-19 at any time, and especially after the person received a COVID-19 vaccination.
(Excerpt) Read more at fda.gov ...
I think the CDC is hiding, but they are likely hiding more than one of their misdeeds.
Antibody tests tell you if the patient has been recently exposed to whatever illness the CDC chooses to call “Covid” (the PCR doesn’t work). At first, when it suited them, the CDC acted like this was THE test to determine if you had immunity or not, even though it’s far too limited.
You had Covid last year, you have lasting immunity - but the lasting kind is T-cell immunity, and the short term kind is antibodies. Here’s a link:
http://www.sbs.utexas.edu/field/mic361a/mic361/immune.html
So if you don’t have antibodies, it just means you haven’t been exposed recently enough for your immune system to still be on patrol. That antibody test, if taken as the only measure of immunity, would falsely declare many still vulnerable.
But the CDC has problems to solve. Initially it lied and said the Covid vaccine would provide the same antibodies as getting the natural infection. They knew this is false but they wanted the public to ‘get the shot.’
Early on, a man died post vax and his physician said the antibodies he had gotten from the vaccine were not the same as the antibodies generated by natural infection.
This was, at the time, not tolerated, and that article and social media quote about it was scorched from the Internet.
But then some brilliant good guy doctors experimented with the spike proteins that the CDC/NIH said the ‘vaccines’ all contain. They discovered the spike protein alone was highly damaging and asked, “Well if Covid disease is is damaging and has spike proteins, why would your vaccine want to make the human body produce those spike proteins?”
“You fools!” answered the CDC (Okay, maybe I’m paraphrasing here), our vaccine has spike proteins except the damaging part of the spike, the nucleocapsid! Our vaccines lack the damaging nucleocapsid on the spike proteins, IDIOTS!” (yeah, they probably didn’t say exactly those words).
The smart, good doctors said, “What? You produced a vaccine that won’t cause the recipients to develop antibodies to the nucleocapsid? But that’s the most dangerous part! Now the vaccinated have no protection against Covid’s toxic nucleocapsid!”
“You morons!” replied the CDC (still paraphrasing here), the patients will have full protection from Covid from the vaccine! Even without the nucleocapsid! You garbage people keep making up misinformation!”
The good doctors said, “Well how can the public be immune to something for which they have not developed antibodies?”
“It’s like this, Troglodykes! SHUT UP AND STOP CONTRIBUTING TO VACCINE HESITANCY!”
SO then Dr. Flemming claimed that he willing to share/post research demonstrating that a group of people who had not had Covid but had the fake Covid ‘vaccine’ produced antibodies to the nucleocapsid.
I don’t know what the final answer is - it’s just the CDC lies so often, ignores massive amounts of legitimate research and vilifies/works to destroy those with whom it disagrees - so I’m just willing to assume the CDC is at fault here one way or another.
For awhile - testing people for antibodies netted more results they were able falsely distort and use to pressure people to get needless, toxic vaccines, a tactic which ignored long-lasting T-cell immunity.
A freeper saved a video of a well-intentioned Red Cross worker explaining why the Red Cross would no longer accept donations of convalescent plasma from those who had been vaccinated. Initially, convalescent plasma helped those ill with Covid fight the illness. This woman innocently said, “No, we can’t use convalescent plasma from vaccinated people because the vaccine wipes out your antibodies” I sure hope she survived the fallout from her candor.
But now the CDC seems to be afraid that some post Covid people will told if their antibodies are reduced, different from those caused by Covid disease, or if they now have the specific antibodies for the nucleocapsid. When the CDC lies as often as it does, it has lots of different things to hide.
That does not surprise me at all.
I believe my wife and I may have had it. But my (unapproved) antibody test came back negative. Those tests are not that accurate from what I’ve been told.
The only thing that works is living in fear
I was at my doc’s office and he said...since we’re taking blood anyway, I’m going to run 2 tests on you. One to see what your immunity is, the amount of antibodies you have, and two to see if you have had Covid. He called me a few days later and said....even though you’ve had the J&J your antibodies are super low and no, you haven’t had covid. So did he run the test designated to detect antibodies from the vaccine? I’ll ask him when I see him again. He’s a pretty up front doc.
Translation: You won’t find any antibodies from the ‘vaccines’, the death jabs.
First the definition of vaccine seems to have been changed in some if not all online dictionaries. How does this fit in if at all?
Second, if we do not have a test for the efficacy of the so called covid vaccines, then we have no scientific means to measure the results of using the vaccine. Iow, kiss science good bye without some reliable measure.
Third, please tell me that the vaccine does not wipe out preexisting COVID antibodies. This would put people who have gone through covid already at worse risk than If they had not taken the jab at all. A side effect of this would be an unending sequence of jabs, each jab compensating for the lack of permanent effect of the previous jab, and all jabs wiping out any naturally acquired (antibody) immunity. Thus, the immunization card becomes not a proof of immunity but an indirect proof of possibility of vulnerability (and need for an unending series of jabs, absent conclusive tests for any other state).
This is part of the reason I will never get another flu shot. We are at a place where anyone in the process would have no problem including something (like the covid vaccine) “for your own good.”
Also, the people doing it just don’t care. If they killed you about all the concern they could muster would be for the inconvenience that it brought to their day.
Finally, I am not sure it is all that helpful. When I look at the painfully bad thinking that went into the COVID vaccinations, it makes me realize that there is very little thought being given to any vaccination program anymore.
I find it odd that we have taken one of the greatest medical advancements ever made and turned it into a talisman.
Laz, good summary about your old buddies at the CDC in the replied-to post.
I would be very, very interested in knowing exactly what test he had run to see if someone has had Covid. I want to take it.
That well-explains where I am at on all this. And I used to get a flu shot every year.
I didn’t ask. I can email him and ask him though. He always responds. We were talking about Covid and I said...I haven’t had it that I know of.
That was a very informative post, and quite interesting. One would wonder why they won’t allow 164068 to be ordered by individuals. Next time I see my doctor, I’m gonna ask for that.
Some of the sane Virologists say that naturally acquired immunity is 27 times stronger than that of the mRNA vaccine. And it lasts longer and it is broader (will help with mutated versions).
So, why are they trying to scare the world into self destructing? So they can “rule” us with an iron hand.
We will see about that crap.
I had to be the bearer of bad news, but according to a statement by the Red Cross earlier this year, yes the vaccine wipes out existing antibodies.
They put that on their page about donating convalescent plasma, but took it down quickly. My DH and I both saw it. Several FReepers saw it.
Next thing you know it was scrubbed online, now the searches are full of fact checkers calling it a conspiracy. I found one news article they missed: https://www.komu.com/news/covid19/vaccine/american-red-cross-says-vaccinated-donors-can-give-blood-not-convalescent-plasma/article_d137f5c8-7616-11eb-9715-6707fa0d47d6.html
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I wish!
But it's actually getting much worse, instead of better. And the problem extends far beyond the FDA and Anthony Fauci.
Check this out:
Who’s their daddy?? Big Pharma...
Why hasn’t the Novavax vaccine been approved but vaccines from three BigPharma giants got immediate approval with one getting FDA approval needed for mandates?
Just one more example of deliberate hiding the truth with censorship and obfuscation
And it's becoming very clear to me that this is all engineered and controlled by a "ONE WORLD ORDER" cabal, in the effort to take over the Republic of the United States of America and replace it with socialist / communist central government control within the NEW WORLD ORDER.
It's time to gird your armor, folks!
Why? Pols and ComDem bureaucraps are paid.
In Mexico they call it “the bite”, aka Mordida.
looks like the test you want is wholesale $650/95 tests - research only - so not expensive sotospeak on a unit basis, but restricted
https://www.sinobiological.com/elisa-kits/cov-nucleocapsid-kit40588
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