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France issues angry response to nuclear submarine deal between U.S., U.K., and Australia
Fox News ^ | 09/15/2021 | Andrew Mark Miller |

Posted on 09/15/2021 9:44:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin

In a statement issued by French Minister Of Europe and Foreign Affairs Jean-yves Le Drian and Minister of the Armed Forces Florence Parly, the country said the decision announced on Wednesday "is contrary to the letter and spirit of the cooperation that prevailed between France and Australia, based on a relationship of political trust as well as on the development of a very high-level defence industrial and technological base in Australia."

"The American choice to exclude a European ally and partner such as France from a structuring partnership with Australia, at a time when we are facing unprecedented challenges in the Indo-Pacific region, whether in terms of our values or in terms of respect for multilateralism based on the rule of law, shows a lack of coherence that France can only note and regret,"

France added that it is the "only European nation present in the Indo-Pacific with nearly two million citizens and more than 7,000 military personnel."

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; australia; china; europeanunion; france; taliban; unitedkingdom; ursulavonderleyen; waronterror
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1 posted on 09/15/2021 9:44:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

We have joined Britain and Australia in Oceania to oppose China in Eastasia and I guess they will have to join the rest of Europe and Russia in Eurasia.


2 posted on 09/15/2021 9:46:41 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODYS BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: BenLurkin

“France erupts as Australia prepares to ditch $90BILLION submarine plan for a US nuclear powered fleet.”

google referencing:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9995875/Australia-nuclear-submarine-plan-Frances-fury-stabbed-back.html


3 posted on 09/15/2021 9:49:38 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: BenLurkin

I’m not anti or pro French on this particular issue.

France knows the Anglo sphere nations have a “special relationship.”

“That’s how we roll.”


4 posted on 09/15/2021 9:51:02 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: BenLurkin

5 posted on 09/15/2021 9:52:31 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: unclebankster

This isn’t about any special relationship. France has totally botched their nuclear sub deal and the Aussies have finally had enough. It’s about time. What a fiasco it’s been.


6 posted on 09/15/2021 9:53:40 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Nextrush

“We have joined Britain and Australia in Oceania to oppose China in Eastasia and I guess they will have to join the rest of Europe and Russia in Eurasia.”

Our State Department, Intelligence Agencies, Politicians, and Media are excellent at selling unnecessary wars.

They’ve had many years to perfect their propaganda/information for the people of the United States.

“They’re good at what they do.”


7 posted on 09/15/2021 9:56:05 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: AlaskaErik
This isn’t about any special relationship. France has totally botched their nuclear sub deal and the Aussies have finally had enough. It’s about time. What a fiasco it’s been.

It has been a fiasco, and France is out the $90 billion, but France's sub design was conventional, not nuclear.

8 posted on 09/15/2021 9:56:06 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: AlaskaErik

“This isn’t about any special relationship. France has totally botched their nuclear sub deal and the Aussies have finally had enough. It’s about time. What a fiasco it’s been.”

Thanks for the correction.

I admit I don’t have your knowledge on this issue.


9 posted on 09/15/2021 9:58:25 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: Yo-Yo
It has been a fiasco, and France is out the $90 billion, but France's sub design was conventional, not nuclear.

They were trying to use a nuclear sub platform and turn it into diesel-electric. Now they'll get nukes that were designed from the ground up to be nukes. The Aussies should also start thinking about a nuclear weapons program while they're at it. Red China is looking to gobble up the rest of the world and Australia sure as hell can't count on Biden-type administrations anymore.

10 posted on 09/15/2021 10:07:40 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: unclebankster

I shouldn’t have said nuclear sub. France was to convert a nuclear sub platform into diesel-electric for Australia, and that has been a fiasco.


11 posted on 09/15/2021 10:09:25 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: AlaskaErik

France often reminds me of Turkey’s Erdogan.....always wanting to be a part of things and offend when he’s not included so he sticks his head in anyway.


12 posted on 09/15/2021 10:10:37 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Nextrush
"We have joined Britain and Australia in Oceania to oppose China in Eastasia..."

China isn't a threat, so says General Milley, and the Biden Administration. Will Milley call the Chi-coms to let them know Australia is going to attack them with nuclear subs?

13 posted on 09/15/2021 10:21:51 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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I guess we are headed into darkness whatever this alliance means in the end.

Will it work out like the international alliance did in Afghanistan?


14 posted on 09/15/2021 10:30:40 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODYS BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

France and Australia are both socialist, France has elected communist admins in the past. Why do we feel compelled to deal with any of them?


15 posted on 09/15/2021 11:41:27 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: BenLurkin

Anyone really still stupid enough to trust security agreements negotiated with Bugout Joe’s regime?


16 posted on 09/15/2021 11:44:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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>> Bugout Joe’s regime

Guessing the defense contractors are steering the ship.


17 posted on 09/16/2021 12:02:03 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Clutch Martin
You're going back many many decades. The communist party in France is weak. In the current French legislature, they have 10 seats out of 500+ seats in the French Parliament or whatever it is called and zero seats in the European Parliament. The party receives less than 10% of the vote now.

So, some things to consider: You can arguably say France has more honest elections than we currently conduct. At least, these folks are out in the open and we know who they are and the communists in our land work behind the scenes, pretending they are not who they really are.

18 posted on 09/16/2021 12:06:19 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: AlaskaErik

The “Aussies” are abusing their citizens!


19 posted on 09/16/2021 12:17:22 AM PDT by antceecee
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To: Clutch Martin
We deal with them for influence. If we don't, it creates a vacuum that some other nation will fill, sometimes to our detriment and/or the world's detriment.

In the case of Saudi Arabia, Trump promised them weapons to fend off Iran and their client states. As we know, Trump "lost". Biden cancelled the weapons and has dismantled the defensive means of protecting Saudi Arabia. Needless to say, Saudi Arabia is very vulnerable and in their fear and the vacuum created ran right into the arms of Russia and has signed a new weapons deal with them. Truly, a stupid move on our part since we know Russia creates havoc, instability and trouble wherever they go. It has been a goal of the US to keep Russia out of the Middle East for decades. No one is saying Saudi Arabia is a clean and worthy state, but it is always in our best interests to block Russia from increasing their reach and influence and, of course, of protecting the world's economy.

We will pay for this one way or another.

20 posted on 09/16/2021 12:17:40 AM PDT by Dave W
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