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Vaccines Have NEGATIVE Effectiveness in the Over-40s, as Low as MINUS 38%, Shows New PHE Report
https://dailysceptic.org ^ | 10 September 2021 | Will Jones

Posted on 09/10/2021 8:13:02 AM PDT by Enterprise

"Strikingly, during this four-week period the vaccine effectiveness is negative in all the over-40s age bands except the over-80s – the vaccines seemed to make things worse, with the vaccinated having disproportionately more infections than the unvaccinated. For 60-69 year-olds it hits as low as minus-38%. This makes a nonsense of vaccine passports or any measure based on the notion that vaccines prevent infection."

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: covid; dailypropaganda; duplicate; stats
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1 posted on 09/10/2021 8:13:02 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

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2 posted on 09/10/2021 8:14:32 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: Enterprise

I conclude the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting sick — in fact, it increases your chance of getting sick if you are in the Age 40-79 bracket.

BUT, it sure is remarkably helpful to prevent you from going to the hospital and dying. And that is across ALL age brackets.


3 posted on 09/10/2021 8:21:10 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: Enterprise

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4 posted on 09/10/2021 8:22:15 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (In Hoc Signo Vinces)
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To: simpson96

Notice the 80+% effectiveness against hospitalizations and deaths!


5 posted on 09/10/2021 8:24:08 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

something else that increases your chance of living is just not going to the hospital....there, they will kill you


6 posted on 09/10/2021 8:24:33 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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7 posted on 09/10/2021 8:27:15 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: TexasGator
They have to allow you to get into a hospital, and if you have the "correct paperwork", you're not allowed in, thus robbing you of the opportunity to BECOME infected and die.

See ?

Critical thinking 101

8 posted on 09/10/2021 8:32:29 AM PDT by knarf (qa)
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To: TexasGator

Yeah I’m not sure this is making the point he thinks it is.


9 posted on 09/10/2021 8:34:56 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: knarf

“See ?”

No.


10 posted on 09/10/2021 8:36:15 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“ I conclude the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting sick — in fact, it increases your chance of getting sick if you are in the Age 40-79 bracket.”
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You make the common mistake of equating “cases” with sickness. They are frequently NOT THE SAME.


11 posted on 09/10/2021 8:36:33 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ConservativeDude
something else that increases your chance of living is just not going to the hospital....there, they will kill you

C'mon man! Malpractice only kills 250,000 people per year.

12 posted on 09/10/2021 8:41:06 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Enterprise; null and void
Vaccines Have NEGATIVE Effectiveness in the Over-40s, as Low as MINUS 38%, Shows New PHE Report

I don't follow statistics because by their very nature they are damned. As the case with their brethren the polls, statistics are where the truth is sent in order to be crucified.

Now as a student of history I've noticed patterns. Here's one:

War on Poverty
War on Drugs
War on Terror
War on COVID

13 posted on 09/10/2021 8:44:50 AM PDT by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity-- because the Son of David begins with Mars.)
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To: Enterprise

I’m sure FR’s very own resident physicians and pro-vaxxers will be arriving shortly to dispute this report.


14 posted on 09/10/2021 8:47:35 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: Enterprise

Much as I don’t like the notavax, the numbers seem to show that it is effective at reducing hospitalization and death. Those are the two important numbers.
The headline is misleading; it looks at the least important stat. There is no ‘herd immunity’ for this. Everyone is eventually going to get it.

Still not taking the notavax, though.


15 posted on 09/10/2021 8:49:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Enterprise

BUT THE NARRATIVE!


16 posted on 09/10/2021 8:51:56 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

99.99% survival rates for the youth naturally


17 posted on 09/10/2021 8:53:04 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: knarf
Reading is your friend, comprehensive reading is your lover.


"The data comes from the Second Generation Surveillance System (SGSS), the relationship of which to the Government dashboard data is unclear, though the figures are similar. It reports 722,728 cases in the reporting period, compared to the dashboard figure of 727,010 by specimen date, so this seems comprehensive. On the other hand, it includes 6,605 hospitalisations, whereas the dashboard has 21,242, more than three times as many, though this may be due to how it counts hospitalisations (“Cases whom presented to emergency care (within 28 days of a positive specimen), resulting in overnight inpatient admission”). It has 2,381 deaths, against the dashboard’s 2,496, so again this is most of them."

18 posted on 09/10/2021 8:56:37 AM PDT by knarf (qa)
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To: House Atreides

“... mistake of equating “cases” with sickness. They are frequently NOT THE SAME.”

Agreed. This “case” measurement is just nuts. Hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and deaths are what really matter.


19 posted on 09/10/2021 9:15:28 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: Gene Eric

ZERO deaths in Idaho below age 18!!

Not a single one! 1.8 million people.


20 posted on 09/10/2021 9:17:10 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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