Posted on 09/05/2021 8:48:09 AM PDT by ransomnote
ransomnote: the article does link to information which seems to prove that a trial protocol specified that participants be given 2400mg of a drug in a 24 hour period, which appears to be extremely high and potentially lethal.
I've heard all along that every time a government agency (ours or UK or other nation) tests HCQ/AZ or Ivermectin and declares it a failure, the dosages are wrong (too high, too low), are timed wrong (too little, too late, next doses delayed) or are missing important steps (Azithromycin WITH HCQ). The few accusations I checked out of this kind seemed to be correct. But I have not checked all the studies so my experience is limited.
This author is outraged and appears to state the SUSPECTED reason why the dose to be administered in 24 hours is so high as if motive is known. I understand the reasoning because I've seen the other assertions and a few studies etc., but the author has no proof WHY the dosages are in fact so high.
Perhaps a better question is to ask in all these cases why the governments testing and purporting to 'prove' HCQ and Ivermectin supposedly don't work, keep diverging from recommended dosages and protocols provided by those who say these drugs work (e.g., why not test Dr. Zelenko's protocol?).
So the usefulness of the article, for thse interested, might be in acquiring experience looking at possible reasons why some studies say Ivermectin works to an outstanding degree:
Dr Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD | Peru-> last half of 2020. Mortality dropped 14 fold over 3 months with Ivermectin, rose 13 fold when Ivermectin removed
twitter.com ^ | 9/5/2021 | Robert W Malone MD @RWMaloneMD
And then comparing those successful protocols with the failed protocols used in government studies, and questioning decision makers as to why, as in this case, a dosage may be so alarmingly high or why the protocol may diverge from those used successfully. At the very least, the health and safety of the trial participants could benefit from such explorations prior to testing.
The public has been riding a rollercoaster -with reports alternating between near miraculous benefits (Of Ivermectin, HCQ) followed by reports of danger and disaster). Science allows for practical comparisons and decision making - BRING IT ON!
Here's an excerpt from the linked Daily Expose article, given the highly emotional title, "Chris Whitty ordered the NHS to give alleged Covid-19 patients lethal doses of Hydroxychloroquine to kill them and sabotage trials – now the fate of the nations children rests in his hands", in The Daily Expose.
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"Hydroxychloroquine was one of the drugs being trialled. In the RECOVERY Trial and the REMAP-CAP Trial they used an extremely high and potentially lethal dose: 800 mg at 0 and 6 hours followed by 400 mg at 12 hours and then every 12 hours for up to nine additional days. A patient was therefore given 2,400 mg in the first 24 hours of treatment.
Read trial document here.
According to David Jayne, professor of clinical autoimmunity at Cambridge University:
“Hydroxychloroquine overdose is associated with cardiovascular, neurological, and other toxicities, occurring with doses over 1500 mg, and higher doses are associated with fatality.”
In an article for the BMJ found here co-head of the Recovery Trial Martin Landray explained:
“The dose comes from modelling by Nick White, professor of tropical medicine at the University of Oxford, and his team, who have extensive experience with this drug.”
Sir Nicholas White was involved in the WHO’s “Informal consultation on the potential role of chloroquine in the clinical management of COVID 19 infection” on March 13th. Also present were 5 “Experts” affiliated with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The WHO’s SOLIDARITY Trial used the same dose for hydroxychloroquine as the RECOVERY & REMAP-CAP Trials.
Chinese scientists had already recommended a much lower and safer dose on March 9th 2020:
“a loading dose of 400 mg twice daily of hydroxychloroquine sulfate given orally, followed by a maintenance dose of 200 mg given twice daily for 4 days is recommended for SARS-CoV-2 infection” "
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Remembering the sacrificed veterans subjected to lethal HCQ doses after they were already critically ill…in an experiment intended to embarrass President Trump and deny HCQ as part of covid treatment
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Important Remembering the sacrificed veterans subjected to lethal HCQ doses after they were already critically ill…in an experiment intended to embarrass President Trump and deny HCQ as part of covid treatment |
WHAT?!!! I don't think I heard of that, or if I did back then, could not believe it. NOW I can believe it! HOW HORRIBLE! What a monstrous way to treat any human, let alone our honored warriors!
‘They’ will kill you to support ‘their’ agenda ... the gates of Hell
fyi - dead link
Those intrigued by the undercurrent of such reports on ‘non-official protocols’ would do well to read up on the curious case of professional persecution of Dr. Barry Marshall & Robin Warren, both of whom eventually were awarded the Nobel Prize after a 20 year battle to get the medical community to accept their verifiable conclusions/treatments for a very, very common condition (which, ironically, persists to this day, professional ignorance being what it is).
The overarching conclusion is that stubborn intransigence among so-called ‘professionals’ is endemic and compounded by an order of magnitude due to the corruption of money & government.
In short, I frame those dismissive of the curious ‘studies’ of HCQ/Ivermectin/et al ignorant at best, fools at worst.
Some are residents of FR...
Thank you for posting and for the ping!
Probably also to make the big Pharma companies billions of dollars to push their vaccines vs. less expensive meds for treatment.
That was done around the middle of last year. Some VA patients were given HCQ. They were well into their illnesses when it was given (I.e.., too late), and they mostly elderly and obese. This treatment was designed to fail.
Oxford is tied to the Lancet, who has retracted 2 studies for inadequate scientific basis over CoVID. It’s good to see the name associated with this act of attempted murder on the victims of the ‘trial’.
Sorry for the dead link. Thank you for the head’s up. Here’s a link with some kick to it.
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“Studies show” is meaningless when the study is designed to fail.
One email dated August 4, 2001, Gates made a proposal to then-Pfizer CEO Henry McKinnell, and it outlined what any sane and reasonable person would consider a nefarious agenda—discretely tainting vaccinations with an undetectable poison that would slowly dissolve the recipient’s cerebellum over many years while simultaneously erode vital organs.
https://realrawnews.com/2021/09/bill-gates-military-tribunal-day-3/
Bourla put forward an agenda: If the FDA approved Pfizer’s vaccine, which was already in the works, Pfizer would kick back 15% of profit over the next 36 months.
https://realrawnews.com/2021/08/pfizer-the-fda-and-bribes-aplenty/
There is much evil that we would have never believed so many people are capable of doing 5-6 years ago. Now it seems that there are hundreds of thousands of people capable of evil without conscious. They are Godless people who believe the ends justify the means, with the ends being some sort of global utopia. They have no heaven to look forward to so they want to create one here on earth, by force if need be. How utterly insane.
While we’re at it, let’s have a look at ALL the Ivermectin studies, shall we?
What has been done is a crime against humanity.
~Easy
They started with hospitalized patients, which is kind of late in the course of covid. Some were even on ventilators. Rates of ventilation in the HC, HC+AZ, and no HC groups were 13.3%, 6.9%, 14.1%, respectively.(34.3% total) Some were given only HCQ, some were given HCQ+AZ. None were given Zinc which is another fail. No Vit D either. They didn't follow Zelenko's protocol which was about the only one around at the time.
Yeah, that same site says that Navy Seals raided Cuomo's home on August 15 and that he's now in Gitmo awaiting a military tribunal, and that William Barr was hanged after a military trial on August 2.
I did some digging the other day on some studies that supposedly showed that Ivermectin had little effect on covid. These have been part of meta studies that are used to claim it does not work. However, a deep dive into the original studies showed many of them were flawed. One such meta analysis posted here on FR had 3 flawed studies included!
Here is one such study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389
The study authors concluded: The findings do not support the use of ivermectin for treatment of mild COVID-19, although larger trials may be needed to understand effects on other clinically relevant outcomes.
BUT if you look at the study, it is rife with issues. Some are discussed here:
https://c19ivermectin.com/lopezmedina.html. More issues are discussed in this letter to the JAMA signed by 100 physicians: https://jamaletter.com/
That is just one study, I found several with major flaws. I find it incredibly interesting that TPTB have to include flawed studies in their attack on ivermectin, knowing that most people will never look past the headlines.
But as a freeper was told yesterday, we are not smart enough to understand these studies. It should be up to the experts to tell us what to think 🙄
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