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Horse dewormer for unproven COVID-19 treatment in high demand, confounding supply stores and farmers
Concord Monitor ^ | September 2, 2021 | Teddy Rosenbluth

Posted on 09/02/2021 4:18:19 PM PDT by billorites

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To: scripter

“Is the author lying, misinformed or gaslighting?”

That’s the big question. I would have added “is the author willfully stupid or incurious about the medication?”

Every single article that starts off with “Horse dewormer” and/or “animal dewormer” tells you everything you need to know about what’s coming.


41 posted on 09/02/2021 5:35:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?”)
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To: billorites
“It makes no sense to me,” she said. “If you use it on goats, you have to withdraw from drinking the milk for seven days and from eating the meat for 14 days. So, why people think it's a good idea to put that into their body I have no idea.”

Lady, it's because I don't have anyone expecting to drink my urine.

42 posted on 09/02/2021 5:37:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: billorites

This gaslighting is getting stupid.

I have a scrip for Ivermectin. It was written by a doctor and filled at CVS.


43 posted on 09/02/2021 5:38:45 PM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: butlerweave

Is it a cream of those giant Horse pills ?

It is like Apple flavored vasoline. Comes in a large syringe with the dosage marked specific to the weight of the “patient”. One tube treats a 1250lb horse.


44 posted on 09/02/2021 5:39:39 PM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: billorites

another misleading headline.


45 posted on 09/02/2021 5:39:41 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: billorites
If you use it on goats, you have to withdraw from drinking the milk for seven days and from eating the meat for 14 days. So, why people think it’s a good idea to put that into their body I have no idea.”

Wow, I would not use it on goats, well at least not all the herd. Haemonchus contortus has a demonstrated resistance to Ivomec. Maybe if I graded goats using FAMACHA to determine the level of anemia of animals - then I would use.

Valbazen is good choice nowadays for our flock. And so much cheaper. I don't remember Ivomec costing as much ($95 for 1 liter) as it does. It's still available where we buy meds but with a "Not Safe or Approved for Human Use Which Could Cause Severe Injury or Death" warning. That prudent on the part of the company. There's plenty of smart people that could self-dose. There's also plenty of stupid people that could not self dose.

46 posted on 09/02/2021 5:43:12 PM PDT by Fury
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To: billorites

If it were just an animal dewormer then it would not be available in prescription tablet form in pharmacies for human use. It has also been studied as having antiviral properties before this pandemic...albeit it is very difficult to find articles anymore since most of them that come up on a search are the newer articles about it - there are so many.

This article’s narrative is false even if it were completely ineffective against COVID19.


47 posted on 09/02/2021 5:45:35 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Nomad577
It's hard to nail down but they want to make it into a politically motivating anti-mainstream thing so bad they will do anything EXCEPT the general consensus. When it's not even necessary to do so.

You remind me of a coworker from Austria. He asked us the first night he was over why there were so many Christian denominations in America, when everyone knows you should attend the church that was the biggest, because it was obviously the best.

48 posted on 09/02/2021 5:47:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: billorites

IT IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS PUSHING A SHITTY ALTERNATIVE... WELL NOT PUSHING IT BY ANGLING TO MAKE IT MANDATORY!!!!!

AS WELL AS SLANDERING AND SMEARING VIABLE ALTERNATIVES!!!!!

THIS IS WHY YOU DAMNED MORONS!!!


49 posted on 09/02/2021 5:48:18 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: TigersEye

https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/


50 posted on 09/02/2021 5:50:26 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Fury

It is about your location. Valbazen does not work where I live. Many experts now are commending combo treatments as single treatments are causing resistance, as well as practicing refugia (which is where FAMACHA comes in handy). Studies and explanation here:

Combination Dewormers: The Time is Now
Dr. Ray Kaplan
Professor of Parasitology
University of Georgia, College of Veterinary Medicine
https://www.wormx.info/combinations


51 posted on 09/02/2021 5:51:46 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: billorites

The4 more the media screams about ivermectin being BAD... the more people will pursuit “alternative sources”

If the FDA wanted this shit to go away they would put emergency OTC authorization to ivermectin to be sold over the counter.

We could ramp up production and make it as plentiful as tylenol...

WHICH BY THE WAY IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN IVERMECTIN!!!

But of course this would end their little epidemic overnight and the vax companies would be sad...


52 posted on 09/02/2021 5:53:00 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: billorites

...frustrating store owners and irritating farmers.
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And possibly saving lives.


53 posted on 09/02/2021 5:55:06 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: billorites

Beth Glasmann, who owns a hobby farm in Goshen, said she is down to her last tube of ivermectin and hasn’t been able to find a refill at her local farm stores or online.

“It makes no sense to me,” she said. “If you use it on goats, you have to withdraw from drinking the milk for seven days and from eating the meat for 14 days. So, why people think it’s a good idea to put that into their body I have no idea.”

What a moron!

That regulation was from the USDA, not the FDA!

The USDA is notoriously conservative about slaughter/milk dates for ANY animal medication!!!!!

If you gave a damned cow an aspirin you would have to wait 7/14 days until you squeezed a teat or ran into the slaughterhouse to be USDA compliant!


54 posted on 09/02/2021 5:55:45 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Nomad577

Not that weird considering what has been known by NIH for nearly a decade.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3327999/

Ivermectin inhibits infection by HIV-1 and DENV which rely on Impα/β1-mediated nuclear transport

Nuclear import of viral proteins is critical to the life cycle of many viruses, including many RNA viruses that replicate exclusively in the cytoplasm such as DENV, respiratory syncytial virus and rabies [2,3,31,48,49]. In the case of HIV, the virus generates a PIC (pre-integration complex), consisting of the newly transcribed viral cDNA and several HIV (e.g. IN) and host proteins. The PIC is then transported into the nucleus most likely through the action of IN [26], subsequent to which IN integrates the viral cDNA into the host cell genome, which is essential for productive infection [50]. Owing to these critical nuclear functions of IN, it is likely that inhibition of IN nuclear import will impede productive HIV infection.


55 posted on 09/02/2021 5:55:54 PM PDT by zek157
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To: billorites; All
Veterinary formulas of ivermectin are often highly concentrated and dangerous for human consumption.

Duh. Jumping out of an airplane without wearing a parachute is dangerous too. We are surrounded by morons.

56 posted on 09/02/2021 6:03:40 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: billorites

You can’t write a story about Ivermectin unless you throw in the magic words “you are not a horse”.


57 posted on 09/02/2021 6:04:04 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (I am a horse, of course, of course.)
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These are the same 42% of the jerks who think Biden is doing a good job inviting 200,000 illegal aliens a month to rape and murder Americans.


58 posted on 09/02/2021 6:06:36 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: billorites
Funny how they run around crying about ivermectin not being scientifically tested for WuFlu and oh so dangerous.

BUT..... IF you went to the ER thinking you had WuFlu they would test you and while waiting for the results give you a drug that IS NOT an approved treatment for WuFlu, has not been tested as such and is super easy to over dose on and can destroy your liver if you take any more then recommended. Which will probably kill you.

That drug is Tylenol.

Just something to think about.

59 posted on 09/02/2021 6:11:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I refuse to be afraid. I refuse to bow. I refuse to take any job I do not wish to. So BUZZ OFF!)
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To: LilFarmer

I’ll have to take a look at combo treatments again. We treat any animal that scores FAMACHA 3-5. Thankfully, we have not have had a score in that range in several years.

That disease that concerns me the most nowadays in Johne’s. Not really a good definitive per animal test (still and yet). My DVM suggested it is much more prevalent in dairy cattle than is acknowledged.


60 posted on 09/02/2021 6:16:16 PM PDT by Fury
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