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Judge orders Cincy-area hospital to treat COVID-19 patient with Ivermectin, despite warnings
Fox 19 Cincinnati ^ | 8/30/2021 | Jennifer Edwards Baker

Posted on 08/30/2021 9:09:30 AM PDT by chuck allen

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To: chuck allen

“You are not a horse,” the FDA tweeted on Saturday. “You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

The FDA actually said THAT?


61 posted on 08/30/2021 9:52:59 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Why not? The giverment does.


62 posted on 08/30/2021 9:53:45 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yes, on Twitter last week.


63 posted on 08/30/2021 9:55:55 AM PDT by chuck allen
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To: chuck allen

Dear Butler County Common Pleas Judge Gregory Howard,

You have common sense, guts, and determination.

God bless you, Sir.

\/\/ayne.


64 posted on 08/30/2021 9:56:26 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: chuck allen

Damn.


65 posted on 08/30/2021 9:57:13 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: chuck allen
...requires the hospital to allow Dr. Fred Wagshul to administer 30mg of Ivermectin daily for three weeks...

Not a doctor, but as I understand it, 30mg daily would be 2-3 times the recommended dosage. Are they trying to overdose this poor guy, then blame it on the Ivermectin?

66 posted on 08/30/2021 10:00:00 AM PDT by JHL
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To: proud American in Canada

Lol! You think courts never get involved in patient care?
What do you think malpractice suits are about?

Smh


67 posted on 08/30/2021 10:00:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: iontheball

“..Does anyone but me find it outrageously hypocritical for the FDA to come out and criticize as dangerous a drug with a fifty-year record of safety for treating humans for parasites, yet doesn’t seem concerned in the slightest about the dangers accompanying a revolutionary new mRNA gene therapy drug that is neither safe nor efficacious....”

Absolutely.
It tells me everything I need to know about em.
They’re either morons or up to something no good.....probably both.


68 posted on 08/30/2021 10:02:30 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“On the one hand, I am pleased to hear this.

On the other hand, we now have judges telling doctors how they must practice medicine.

In THIS case, I like the direction, but it’s a slippery slope with a whole lot of room for that to go horribly wrong.”

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That’s funny. You side with politicized CDC and FDA telling doctors and hospitals how to practice medicine and treat patients, but when a judge intervenes on behalf of the patient, it’s slippery slope.

Just how much more slippery can this slope get?


69 posted on 08/30/2021 10:03:48 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. )
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To: chuck allen

If this guy recovers and walks out of the hospital, we’ll never hear the story. We’ll only hear the follow up if he dies.


70 posted on 08/30/2021 10:05:23 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: chuck allen
This is clearly a case of something is better than nothing.
And DON'T WAIT. The first 48 hours are crucial.

71 posted on 08/30/2021 10:07:21 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Obviously you can no longer trust all doctors and hospitals anymore. The medical community is taking a big hit on this one. I feel being admitted in to the hospital is a death warrant now.


72 posted on 08/30/2021 10:08:20 AM PDT by cp124 (Focus on treatment and not an experimental vaccine/flu shot.)
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To: jacknhoo

Hey, I’m not SIDING with anyone.

I’m saying that judges getting involved in deciding medical care issues COULD go badly. But perhaps you don’t see the possibility.


73 posted on 08/30/2021 10:09:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. Weaker, a Jr partner good at losing wars.)
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To: cp124

Looks like the CDC and FDA control how medicine is practiced....they control a lot of money going to hospitals...


74 posted on 08/30/2021 10:12:33 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: chuck allen
Smith has been in the hospital several weeks fighting the virus, court records show.

Too bad he didn't take Ivermectin before COVID hit. Is Ivermectin effective after "several weeks?"

75 posted on 08/30/2021 10:15:16 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
... judges telling doctors how they must practice medicine.

This is not new. Terry Schaivo comes to mind.

76 posted on 08/30/2021 10:16:45 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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No one can consent to substandard care or unprofessional conduct. A bad outcome after inpatient ivermectin treatment (probable) would expose the prescriber to enormous liability which cannot be guarded against by consent.

That was highly disingenuous of you.

By sophism you changed "right to try" into "Money money money, so no right to try."

If the patient is the one asking for the care, they are not *consenting* to substandard care, e.g. acquiescing to substandard care being urged by others. Because the patient is the driver.

And offering a medicine shown to be efficacious, and recommended by others, e.g. public health higher-ups in Japan, for example; and with a 40+ year track record leading to a Nobel Prize in medicine, is not in and of itself "unprofessional conduct".

The only reasonable caveat, would be to look at how long since the onset of symptoms; OR to administer Ivermectin in CONJUNCTION with, "standard of care" treatments; unless you insist Ivermectin necessarily reacts badly with ventilator tubes and/or whatever the hell that medicine is which chews up the hospitalized patients' kidneys.

But speaking of substandard; in addition to the kidney issues from the standard drug, the ventilators tend to blow the patients lungs out, but nobody making $$$ off the patients seems to mind that a bit.

77 posted on 08/30/2021 10:18:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: PistolPaknMama

That’s exactly the case I was thinking of. In the situation today, the judge seems to be helpful and I’m glad that a COVID patient will get the medicine they need. But in Terry Schiavo’s case, the judge stepped in and allowed her to die a bad death. At some point, judges may be serving as death panels or euthanasia boards.

I would like patients and doctors to decide on care. When a judge gets involved, it could go well, it could go poorly, but I would prefer that a three-way conversation not take place at all.


78 posted on 08/30/2021 10:21:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. Weaker, a Jr partner good at losing wars.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The patient/guardian and Doctor bothe decided on a care treatment, it was the Hospital who overruled the Doc. Then of course the Judge overruled the Hospital giving it back to Dr. and Patient to decide. I see no problem here.


79 posted on 08/30/2021 10:27:05 AM PDT by chuck allen
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To: ClearCase_guy

This is clearly legal - The patient is requesting treatment under the ‘Right to Try’ act.

Shocked this hasn’t happened sooner. And the FDA is flat out lying. They even lied in the approval letter for Pfizer. Claimed 91% efficacy in the letter when by August it was below 70% by their own data.


80 posted on 08/30/2021 10:31:42 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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