Posted on 08/29/2021 3:05:38 PM PDT by blueplum
Far-right political commentator Milo Yiannopoulos said he tested positive for COVID-19 in a social media post and shared an image of himself using ivermectin— an anti-parasitic drug that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has warned Americans against using.
Yiannopoulos posted a photo of a positive coronavirus test strip with the caption "Rona," to his Telegram account, according to screenshots shared on Twitter Saturday ...
The commentator then went on to describe his symptoms for the day, which included dizziness, headache, chills, foggy head, nausea, coughing, and difficulty breathing....
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
*** haven’t seen anyone recommend that for the diy’er. ***
The injectable is taken orally by humans. The syringe is used to measure the dosage. I know people who use it as a prophylaxis because it has fewer inactive ingredients than the paste.
The MSDS data for paste shows all the inactive ingredients are safe. The thickener in paste is the same as is used in ketchup. The stabilizer is used in many foods, and cosmetics.
Azrithomycin is an antibiotic. It keeps being added to the mix but not really that helpful. The key ingredient is zinc. HCQ and Quercetin allow zinc to penetrate the cell membrane and this interrupts the virus replication engine.. giving your body a chance to overcome the virus with natural immunity. Very often the effective addition is an antihistamine and or an anti-inflammatory med. Cetirizine is amazingly effective.
Ivermectin however, doesn’t rely on interrupting processes that you need to live or taking you to a dosage of zinc that makes you queasy. Zinc is tolerated differently by different people. Some get sick at 50mg without food. Most effective dosages for Covid Infection are at or above 200mg/day. You can’t really eat enough zinc to poison yourself because you will throw up at about 240mg per day for most people.. and your body will just respond the same until your levels drop. And, yet you will see HCQ + Zinc protocols at or above 240mg. So, this is not as desirable as using a medication that is much milder and is known to be safe and effective in rational dosages. Ivermectin seems to target the spike protein directly and binds it.. making the virus unable to latch onto the cell surface and penetrate. This is a potentially less damaging path especially for prophylactic use.
I have always taken him as an operative, so maybe he’s trying to inspire someone else to follow suit—and create a medical issue to discredit Ivermectin?
Debunked by who?
Oxford University? Lancet?
“ break through” = post vax infection
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
Abstract
Background: Data on breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant infections are limited.
Methods: We studied breakthrough infections among healthcare workers of a major infectious diseases hospital in Vietnam. We collected demographics, vaccination history and results of PCR diagnosis alongside clinical data. We measured SARS-CoV-2 (neutralizing) antibodies at diagnosis, and at week 1, 2 and 3 after diagnosis. We sequenced the viruses using ARTIC protocol.
Findings: Between 11th–25th June 2021 (week 7–8 after dose 2), 69 healthcare workers were tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. 62 participated in the clinical study. 49 were (pre)symptomatic with one requiring oxygen supplementation. All recovered uneventfully. 23 complete-genome sequences were obtained. They all belonged to the Delta variant, and were phylogenetically distinct from the contemporary Delta variant sequences obtained from community transmission cases, suggestive of ongoing transmission between the workers. Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020. Time from diagnosis to PCR negative was 8–33 days (median: 21). Neutralizing antibody levels after vaccination and at diagnosis of the cases were lower than those in the matched uninfected controls. There was no correlation between vaccine-induced neutralizing antibody levels and viral loads or the development of symptoms.
Interpretation: Breakthrough Delta variant infections are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies, explaining the transmission between the vaccinated people. Physical distancing measures remain critical to reduce SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant transmission.
Funding: Wellcome (106680/B/14/Z and 204904/Z/16/Z).
Declaration of Interest: None to declare.
Ethical Approval: The study was approved by the Institutional Review Board of HTD and the Oxford Tropical Research Ethics Committee, University of Oxford, UK.
By anyone who can read..
"Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020."
They're comparing old strain vs. new strain. They didn't look at vaccinated vs. unvaccinated for either strain.
Um, there were no vaccinations in March-April 2020.
Only some trial groups.
This study looked at the viral load carried by vaccinated medical personnel with “ break through infections” ( leaky vaccines) in 2021, and their viral load average was 250 times higher than unvaccinated cases from a year ago. That is why vaxx people infect not just unvaxx, but other vaxx people.
Superspreaders.
Virus finds a way,
Many people have these same symptoms for a few days. Then they recover.
Isn't the consensus on Ivermectin is that it's effective in reducing the impact of COVID if taken early? If he tested positive days ago then I would imagine that it's a bit late to be taking it now.
Exactly, which is why they didn’t compare vaccinated vs unvaccinated.
We now have the Delta variant, which has been documented to produce much higher viral loads in everyone. That’s what they were comparing.
Do you think it’s intellectually honest to attribute the difference in viral loads to the vaccination status when the researchers explicitly say they were different variants? And we know the new variant causes much higher viral loads than the original one?
Regarding intellectual honesty, You might want to question Oxford University and the 31 researchers that submitted the report to Lancet.
They are listed.
And unlike you they say nothing about vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.
And you didn't answer my question.
My point was one the WHO made: The higher the quality of contact tracing, the lower the estimate of asymptomatic spread. The WHO noted that studies showed up to have of all spread were asymptomatic, but those were all low quality studies. That discussion was buried in a report I down loaded some time ago and I don’t want to try to dig it out.
This might be relevant:
“The “recent research” the study authors cite is a meta-analysis of 54 household COVID-19 transmission studies that observed 77,758 participants, which was posted as a pre-print this summer and published in December.
The text of the analysis is even more consequential than the CDC’s reference makes it seem: “Estimated mean household secondary attack rate from symptomatic index cases (18.0%; 95% CI, 14.2%-22.1%) was significantly higher than from asymptomatic or presymptomatic index cases (0.7%; 95% CI, 0%-4.9%; P < .001), although there were few studies in the latter group. These findings are consistent with other household studies28,70 reporting asymptomatic index cases as having limited role in household transmission” (emphasis added).
The 0.7 percent figure includes not just people who never show symptoms of COVID-19, but people who haven’t yet shown symptoms—two groups that have been alleged to be major factors driving the spread of the virus. This is a major data point often underplayed or even challenged in much media coverage of the virus.”
Ie., early data. Certainly not Delta, which seems to specialize in viral loads hundreds of times higher B4 symptoms show up.
A viral load in your nose doesn’t infect anyone. That is kind of the point of symptoms. A single sneeze does far more to spread the virus than many relaxed breaths.
Interestingly, there’s a bunch of other stuff on their protocol as well, which doesn’t seem to get any attention at all. I find that a little odd. Not suspicious, just odd.
One of them is Quercetin. Italian researchers demonstrated that it helps with the wuhan coronavirus.
a fever is a temp of 100.4 F or 38C or greater
The Delta variant may have run its course, New cases here are dropping off a cliff. I wonder if this is exactly what the Brits experienced, larges increases and then over in a month: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases
Yes, and in my region, at least, non-Covid-caused sneezes are common (and were common B4 Covid showed up.) Allergies, coincident colds, intolerance to humidity changes, etc., can all cause sneezes, regardless of whether one has a high load of Covid in their nasal passages. IMO, this could be the primary “method” of spread of Delta.
Since January 2020, I have witnessed one, ONE person in public who, observing her, I thought: “That person needs to go home or to the doctor”. “Random” sneezes? They are legion.
Then there is singing and shouting. “Geez, those people on the other side of the pond / room / etc. are noisy...”
With kids (and some people) we have nose-picking and such. Touch is a secondary vector, but, as infectious as Delta is, it is not to be discounted.
Now, I will grant you the definition of asymptomatic may be a little hazy: If a whiff of an allergen causes me to eject a nice batch of virions, but the high load of Covid virions in my nasal passage did not and does not at present cause my sneeze, am I “asymptomatic”?
I am 6’2 220. (yes. 25 too big.) For me, the preventative dose is 20 mg. The treatment dose is 40mg. 20 3mg pills ain’t cuttin it.
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