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1 posted on 08/28/2021 9:30:53 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
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To: CharlesOConnell

Bump for I need to read this later


2 posted on 08/28/2021 9:56:41 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: CharlesOConnell

Bkmk


3 posted on 08/28/2021 9:57:17 AM PDT by sauropod (Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Like others above, I need to bookmark this FASCINATING, albeit lengthy piece. I will be back!


4 posted on 08/28/2021 10:14:45 AM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Number for later


6 posted on 08/28/2021 10:45:11 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: CharlesOConnell

WOW! I mean, WOWWW!!!


7 posted on 08/28/2021 11:39:33 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: CharlesOConnell

Bookmarked.


8 posted on 08/28/2021 12:25:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audits. No peace.)
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To: CharlesOConnell; All

STOP!

Everyone should read this, it is a very good article and explains a lot, I hated School and began a quest to actually Learn as much as possible after I got out of school.

I found these to snippets to be the most telling of our education system:

“Nazism could be understood only as the psychological product of good schooling.”

“The sheer weight of received ideas, pre-thought thoughts, was so overwhelming that individuals gave up trying to assess things for themselves. Why struggle to invent a map of the world or of the human conscience when schools and media offer thousands of ready-made maps, pre-thought thoughts? “


9 posted on 08/28/2021 12:35:56 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: CharlesOConnell

THIS should be required reading for all students.


10 posted on 08/28/2021 12:51:59 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: CharlesOConnell; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi; ...
Thanks Charles.

To the rest of you, *PING*.

MUST READ.

11 posted on 08/28/2021 1:56:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

I need to add that Gatto did not predict/foresee what was happening to libraries. His praise of libraries back then is not as valid today.


15 posted on 08/29/2021 10:53:30 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: CharlesOConnell

This older article, is in my opinion, Classical FreeRepublic on display. It is a must read, rather than the “mandatory” or mandated read. I know of at least two people with much the same perception of the Public education system today some forty years on from the original printed here for our benefit. The two would be Alex Newman, and Dr Duke Pesta.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=save+the+children+by+alex+newman+and+duke+pesta&cvid=6e74c49ac1b345c09aecf9811b4a758a&aqs=edge..69i57.71929j0j1&pglt=43&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531

Sorry for the link that exceeds page parameters. Not sure if it is at all possible to fix that. I’m not at present capable of the fix it there is one.


16 posted on 08/30/2021 3:09:47 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: CharlesOConnell; Liz; poconopundit
I want to give you a yardstick, a gold standard, by which to measure good schooling. The Shelter Institute in Bath, Maine, will teach you how to build a three thousand-square-foot, multi-level Cape Cod home in three weeks’ time, whatever your age. If you stay another week, it will show you how to make your own posts and beams; you’ll actually cut them out and set them up. You’ll learn wiring, plumbing, insulation, the works. Twenty thousand people have learned how to build a house there for about the cost of one month’s tuition in public school. (Call Patsy Hennon at 207/442-7938, and she’ll get you started on building your own home.)

= For just about the same money you can walk down the street in Bath to the Apprentice Shop at the Maine Maritime Museum and sign on for a one-year course (no vacations, forty hours a week) in traditional wooden boat building. The whole tuition is eight hundred dollars, but there’s a catch: they won’t accept you as a student until you volunteer for two weeks, so they can get to know you and you can judge what it is you’re getting into. Now you’ve invested thirteen months and fifteen hundred dollars and you have a house and a boat. What else would you like to know? How to grow food, make clothes, repair a car, build furniture, sing?

Those of you with a historical imagination will recognize Thomas Jefferson’s prayer for schooling — that it would teach useful knowledge. Some places do: the best schooling in the United States today is coming out of museums, libraries, and private institutes. If anyone wants to school your kids, hold them to the standard of the Shelter Institute and you’ll do fine.

...

In 1926, Bertrand Russell said casually that the United States was the first nation in human history to deliberately deny its children the tools of critical thinking; actually Prussia was first, we were second. The school edition of Moby Dick asked all the right questions, so I had to throw it away. Real books don’t do that. They let readers actively participate with their own questions. Books that show you the best questions to ask aren’t just stupid, they hurt the intellect under the guise of helping it, just as standardized tests do. Well-schooled people, like schoolbooks, are very much alike. Propagandists have known for a century that school-educated people are easier to lead than ignorant people — as Dietrich Bonhoeffer confirmed in his studies of Nazism.

It’s very useful for some people that our form of schooling tells children what to think about, how to think about it, and when to think about it. It’s very useful to some groups that children are trained to be dependent on experts, to react to titles instead of judging the real men and women who hide behind the titles.

With all the money we throw away on bad education for our children... think how wonderful it COULD be...

18 posted on 08/30/2021 9:15:49 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: SunkenCiv
I want to give you a yardstick, a gold standard, by which to measure good schooling. The Shelter Institute in Bath, Maine, will teach you how to build a three thousand-square-foot, multi-level Cape Cod home in three weeks’ time, whatever your age. If you stay another week, it will show you how to make your own posts and beams; you’ll actually cut them out and set them up. You’ll learn wiring, plumbing, insulation, the works. Twenty thousand people have learned how to build a house there for about the cost of one month’s tuition in public school. (Call Patsy Hennon at 207/442-7938, and she’ll get you started on building your own home.)

= For just about the same money you can walk down the street in Bath to the Apprentice Shop at the Maine Maritime Museum and sign on for a one-year course (no vacations, forty hours a week) in traditional wooden boat building. The whole tuition is eight hundred dollars, but there’s a catch: they won’t accept you as a student until you volunteer for two weeks, so they can get to know you and you can judge what it is you’re getting into. Now you’ve invested thirteen months and fifteen hundred dollars and you have a house and a boat. What else would you like to know? How to grow food, make clothes, repair a car, build furniture, sing?

Those of you with a historical imagination will recognize Thomas Jefferson’s prayer for schooling — that it would teach useful knowledge. Some places do: the best schooling in the United States today is coming out of museums, libraries, and private institutes. If anyone wants to school your kids, hold them to the standard of the Shelter Institute and you’ll do fine.

...

In 1926, Bertrand Russell said casually that the United States was the first nation in human history to deliberately deny its children the tools of critical thinking; actually Prussia was first, we were second. The school edition of Moby Dick asked all the right questions, so I had to throw it away. Real books don’t do that. They let readers actively participate with their own questions. Books that show you the best questions to ask aren’t just stupid, they hurt the intellect under the guise of helping it, just as standardized tests do. Well-schooled people, like schoolbooks, are very much alike. Propagandists have known for a century that school-educated people are easier to lead than ignorant people — as Dietrich Bonhoeffer confirmed in his studies of Nazism.

It’s very useful for some people that our form of schooling tells children what to think about, how to think about it, and when to think about it. It’s very useful to some groups that children are trained to be dependent on experts, to react to titles instead of judging the real men and women who hide behind the titles.

With all the money we throw away on bad education for our children... think how wonderful it COULD be...

19 posted on 08/30/2021 9:16:32 AM PDT by GOPJ
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