Posted on 08/22/2021 6:35:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
In that article of yours, I direct you to some key paragraphs that people ought to consider in looking at Novavax’s vaccine technology. Here they are:
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.... protein-based vaccines also have a long track record of effectiveness, in contrast with the newer, largely unproven approaches. The successful hepatitis B vaccine licensed in 1986 and recommended for all U.S. babies in their first day of life is a protein subunit vaccine. So are a flu vaccine approved in 2013 and the human papillomavirus vaccines that have sent rates of cervical cancer plunging since the first ones were licensed in the 2000s.
Perhaps because the technology is tried and true, scores of other companies are also racing to develop protein subunit vaccines. Novavax is the only one to have launched a phase III trial. Of the other firms, the huge vaccinemaker Sanofi Pasteur is likely Novavax’s biggest rival. It “is going to be formidable competition to the Novavax vaccine,” says Vijay Samant, a former head of vaccine manufacturing at Merck and now a consultant to vaccine companies. (Novavax is not a client.) Sanofi Pasteur has deep pockets, infrastructure, and experience, and markets vaccines against 19 infectious diseases.
But Novavax scientists say they’re ready for the competition. “We’ve been getting ready for this our whole lives,” says Gale Smith, Novavax’s chief scientist.
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In March, a team led by Nita Patel, a senior director in the vaccine development department (see sidebar, p. 652), confirmed in lab tests that the engineered protein bound tightly to its human cell-surface receptor. The results strongly suggested antibodies to Novavax’s protein would interfere with the virus’ own spike protein as it tried to fuse with cells.
Patel’s boss, Smith, next enlisted Ward to verify the protein’s structure and stability with electron microscopy. Other tests showed the Novavax spike is stable for many weeks at 2°C to 8°C—a key advantage over the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, which need to be stored at −20°C and −70°C, respectively, and once thawed, last only days in the refrigerator.
Now, the challenge was to make the protein in the vast quantities that the world would need. Novavax had a system to do that, co-invented by Smith decades earlier and since used by the company to develop its other vaccine candidates: moth cells.
>2/3 of the population is under 50 (64.3%, to be precise; close enough), and those under 50 harbor a greater risk of death from a motor vehicle crash than this virus.
Works out to roughly 70% if you include the minimum percentage of truly healthy adults >50.
And apologies if you were just fishing for more info.
Felt different at the time (still reads that way).
It makes Big Pharma more money, and acts as a large-scale test for mRNA technology, which they are itching to use on all kinds of other conditions including cancer.
Bullsh*t. The spike protein causes all kinds of problems.
The claim is that using viral nucleocapsid proteins will lead to far more antibody-dependent enhancement that using the spike protein.
I haven’t been able to track down the research or the data used to come up with that statement.
1) Binding to a cell surface receptor .ne. binding to antibodies.
2) If it's talking about the ACE2 receptor, it's going to have the problems all the other jabs have.
3) Antibodies to the subunit protein still have to match antibodies on the live virus. How well conserved is the region of the spike protein used in this virus?
Dr Sam left out the part about MOTH DNA 😱
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Moth DNA?
Oh my!
Vax-lite...like beer?
Is covaxin a vaccine developed by J&J?
“Many of us already have had it and have natural immunity.”
I’ll go be step further and say that I have natural immunity - even if I haven’t had covid.
Apparently, the speed with which >99% people recover from Covid19 suggests that our immune systems are already equipped to deal with it even before we are exposed.
The reason is that Covid19 is a coronavirus and is similar enough to other common Corona viruses that our systems recognize it and already know how to deploy antibodies within a couple days.
None of the countermeasures taken against this virus were necessary - except possibly for an extremely small high risk population.
The rest of us should have gone ahead and lived our lives - spread it like just another common cold Coronavirus.
But then Big Pharma wouldn’t be able to make billions in windfall profits, and Big Gov wouldn’t have been able to strip us of our rights and our votes.
I tend to agree, but I wonder why it doesn’t work for some. My older son and I tested positive for the bug, but never got sick. We both now have strong antibody counts 5 months later.
But my other son and my wife were hospitalized with COVID pneumonia at the same time. I wonder why they didn’t have the same immunity we had.
Ain’t touching that chit regardless of who makes it. It’s designed to kill.
Am down with Covid right now. Took the monoclonal antibody infusion to reduce the symptoms and the overall time of the infection! So glad I did! It has not gone into my lungs! Our son nearly died from Covid a couple months ago. He didn’t get the infusion. Wish we’d known then, because he is sick with bronchitis so soon!
Bkmk
“But my other son and my wife were hospitalized with COVID pneumonia at the same time.”
Best wishes that they are fully recovered by now.
“I wonder why they didn’t have the same immunity we had.”
Perhaps they did have the same immunity to covid19, but we’re susceptible to pneumonia for some other reason.
Long before Civid19, there have always been cases where a cold or flu coronavirus can turn into pneumonia if it gets into the lungs. But when it happens with Covid, they call it “COVID pneumonia”.
Given the way every hospitalization WITH Covid is reported as a hospitalization CAUSED BY Covid, I don’t think we can trust the healthcare community not to conflate Covid with other conditions in order to justify more government intervention and coercion.
I had a funny (not funny) experience the other day watching a report of the discovery of another large Murder Hornet nest in the USA. Biologists are concerned that if these predators hurt the Honey Bee population, it could have a devastating impact on agriculture and vegetation of the planet - so they plan to destroy these predators’ nests.
What struck me was how “uncomplicated” these biologists sounded when talking about it. There was no hint of hidden agendas or threats of censorship or withdrawal of grant money if they said the wrong thing. They just seemed to be happily doing their science thing without any pressure from government or huge corporate lobbies.
They were obviously being allowed to do their job and nobody was pressuring them. I was just struck by how happy they looked and sounded, and what a different impression you get when you hear doctors and scientists talk about the politically-charged subject of Covid19.
I web they would have just let the doctors and scientists alone to do their jobs and say what they really think - but they didn’t.
Again, I hope your family members are on the mend from their bout with pneumonia.
Covaxin is an inactivated whole virus so it get your body to produce antibodies against all the proteins instead of just the spike protein. It is developed by an Indian company and they are getting approval around the world. The US refused EUA approval because there are already other vaccines, forcing them to go through the full approval process.
Novaxin only targets the spike protein, leaving us with one of the same problems as the three we already have. Targeting the spike protein only means that vaccinated people can easily become asymptomatic super spreaders. Covaxin provides similar protection to natural immunity, which means it has the antibodies that resist viral load are also strong and help prevent future spread. It used no fetal cells in development. There are a number of inactivated whole virus vaccines developed by China, one in early stages in the US, one in France, and one in Kazakhstan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covaxin
Here’s a great chart with the latest on different kinds of vaccines and their development.
https://lozierinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/CHART-Analysis-of-COVID-19-Vaccines-02June21.pdf
Thank you.
I have never been anti-vax—just waiting for further information/data/ and perhaps most importantly new developments.
I will peruse the links—tho at this point, I don’t think I would take Chinese anything...eh except carryout ;)
Exactly, I wouldn’t take a Chinese vaccine. That’s why I highlighted Covaxin.
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